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Another blank for me.
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Seen none, but he's made a few that looks fairly interesting.
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Nada. Name was vaguely familiar, but that's it.
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Y U M E wrote: June 18th, 2021, 8:39 am So you're suggesting to rank someone you have seen only one film of yourself (and likely this will be the case for the most of the users contending). Appears to me as a waste of time...
Well, no one else was suggesting anything, so why not? :shrug: I don't see the point of this thread only for each of us to brag about how much we've seen by each director and which films we loved/hated, but also as a chance to get recommendations on which films to see based on others' recommendations. I honestly thought more people had seen more of de la Iglesia's work - I knew he was underseen but didn't think it would be this much.

For what it's worth, though, the next director I was going to suggest would have at least 30-40+ films and be widely seen, so I would expect long lists from most participants. I was trying to remember who we've done already. Maybe a list in the OP would be helpful (with links to the first post for each director, but that may be a pain to keep updated).
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No need to be sour YUME. It was worth a try. :P (With people having seen so much here and boasting with astonishing view counts for some rather lesser knowns directors)
But why not choose a different director for the weekend - I doubt many will have to catch up with posting their Iglesia lists.

btw I would absolutely nominate a director I haven't seen anything from for the reasons given by Ferg. Sometimes I'm very wrong about the (local) popularity of filmmakers; into both directions.
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.. time's up!
Let me initiate another round with someone who's rather popular and relevant in our circles: S(h)ion Sono! Opportunely before the deadline for the Japan poll hits.
Should be a personal favorite, but somehow isn't. I'm trying to fill a few gaps for more certainty. :)
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I haven't seen anything by Sono yet :sweat:
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Alrighty! I definitely enjoy many of Sono's films, but they aren't all winners. Not surprisingly, most of the bottom tier are from his early days.

Top Tier
Suicide Club (2001)
Noriko's Dinner Table (2005)
Strange Circus (2005)
Love Exposure (2008)
Guilty of Romance (2011)
Why Don't You Play in Hell? (2013)
Tokyo Tribe (2014)
Antiporno (2016)
The Forest of Love (2019)

Mid Tier
I Am Keiko (1997)
Exte: Hair Extensions (2007)
Cold Fish (2010)
Himizu (2011)
The Land of Hope (2012)
Love & Peace (2015)
Shinjuku Swan (2015)
Tag (2015)
The Whispering Star (2015)
Wind (1998) [short]
0cm4 (2001) [short]
Father's Day (2003) [short]
Minna! Esper Dayo!: Bangai hen Esper Miyako e iku (2015)
Red Post on Escher Street (2020)

Bottom Tier
Decisive Match! Girls Dorm Against Boys Dorm (1988)
Heya a.k.a. The Room (1992)
Dankon: The Man (1988)
Teachers of Sexual Play: Modelling Urns with the Female Body (2000)
Bad Film (2012)
Love Songs (1984) [short]
I Am Sono Sion! (1985) [short]
Love (1986) [short]
Vagina and Virgin (1995) [short]
No-Pants Girls: Movie Box-ing2 (2004)
Haruko Momoi - Mail Me (2001) [music video]
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nice choice!

I've been meaning to catch up with both his older stuff and his recent stuff, but even from the times when a lot of his work came to my local cinema's I've yet to see a lot... he is just that prolific, I guess ;)

1 . Himizu (2011) - Himizu - 9 - 4,5
2 . Tokyo Tribe (2014) - Tokyo Tribe - 8,5 - 4,5
3 . Kibô no kuni (2012) - The Land of Hope - 8,5 - 4
4 . Jitensha toiki (1990) - Bicycle Sighs - 8 - 4
5 . Anchiporuno (2016) - Antiporno - 8 - 4
6 . Jisatsu sâkuru (2001) - Suicide Club - 8 - 4
7 . Jigoku de naze warui (2013) - Why Don't You Play in Hell? - 8 - 4
8 . Riaru onigokko (2015) - Tag - 7,5 - 4
9 . Kimyô na sâkasu (2005) - Strange Circus - 7,5 - 3,5
10 . Noriko no shokutaku (2005) - Noriko's Dinner Table - 7 - 3,5
11 . Ai no mukidashi (2008) - Love Exposure - 7 - 3,5
12 . Rabu & Pîsu (2015) - Love & Peace - 6,5 - 3
13 . Koi no tsumi (2011) - Guilty of Romance - 6 - 3

first rating out of ten, second rating out of 5... just if people are still confused by me using both simultaneously :)
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I like Sion Sono. Not quite as much as Miike (3.43 & 20 toplist entries vs 3.25 & 12 toplist entries), but that's hardly a knock on Sono's work.

01. 4.5* - Antiporno [Anchiporuno] (#045)
02. 4.5* - Tag [Riaru Onigokko] (#052)
03. 4.5* - The Whispering Star [Hiso Hiso Boshi] (#064)
04. 4.5* - Tokyo Tribe (#066)
05. 4.5* - The Forest of Love [Ai-naki Mori de Sakebe] (#173)
06. 4.5* - Why Don't You Play in Hell? [Jigoku de Naze Warui] (#184)
07. 4.5* - Cold Fish [Tsumetai Nettaigyo] (#222)
08. 4.5* - Strange Circus [Kimyo na Sakasu] (#250)
09. 4.5* - Himizu (#290)
10. 4.5* - Tokyo Vampire Hotel - The Movie
11. 4.0* - Love/Exposure [Ai no Mukidashi] (#324)
12. 4.0* - Exte: Hair Extensions [Ekusute] (#552)
13. 4.0* - Shinjuku Swan [Shinjuku Suwan] (#596)
14. 4.0* - Guilty of Romance [Koi no Tsumi]
15. 4.0* - Shinjuku Swan II [Shinjuku Suwan II]
16. 3.5* - Hazard
17. 3.5* - Be Sure to Share [Chanto Tsutaeru]
18. 3.5* - Red Post on Escher Street [Escher Dori no Akai Posuto]
19. 3.5* - Love & Peace [Rabu & Pîsu]
20. 3.5* - The Land of Hope [Kibô no Kuni]
21. 3.5* - The Virgin Psychics [Eiga: Minna! Esupâ Da Yo!]
22. 3.5* - Into a Dream [Yume no Naka E]
23. 3.5* - The Real Body [Utsushimi]
24. 3.0* - Suicide Circle [Jisatsu Sâkuru]
25. 3.0* - Noriko's Dinner Table [Noriko no Shokutaku]
26. 3.0* - Balloon Club, Afterwards [Kikyû Kurabu, Sonogo]
27. 3.0* - The Room [Heya]
28. 2.5* - Make the Last Wish
29. 2.0* - I Am Keiko [Keiko Desu Kedo]
30. 2.0* - Bad Film [Warui Eiga]
31. 2.0* - Love [Ai]
32. 2.0* - I Am Sono Sion! [Ore Wa Sono Sion Da!]
33. 1.5* - Bicycle Sighs [Jitensha Toiki]
34. 1.0* - Venice 70: Future Reloaded
35. 1.0* - Decisive Match! Girls Dorm against Boys Dorm [Kessen! Joshiryou tai Danshiryou]
36. 1.0* - A Man's Flower Road [Otoko no Hanamichi]
37. 0.5* - Teachers of Sexual Play: Modelling Urns with the Female Body [Seigi no Tatsujin - Nyotai Tsubo Saguri]
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Brilliant

Love Exposure (2008)
Why Don't You Play in Hell? (2013)
Suicide Club (2001)
Antiporno (2016)

Great

Cold Fish (2010)
Tag (2015)
Noriko's Dinner Table (2005)
Strange Circus (2005)
The Land of Hope (2012)

Could be great, could be good

Guilty of Romance (2011)
Heya a.k.a. The Room (1992)
The Forest of Love (2019)
I Am Keiko (1997)

Very good

Tokyo Tribe (2014)
Red Post on Escher Street (2020)

Good enough

The Whispering Star (2015)
Into a Dream (2005)
Be Sure to Share (2009)

Bad

Teachers of Sexual Play: Modelling Urns with the Female Body
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Seen none.
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Sion Sono
Seen 11, average rating: 7.3

I like Sono, but I always have the feeling I should/could love his work more than I do. And I mean should, as in being align to my personal taste and preferences.

1. The Forest of Love (2019): 8.2
2. Suicide Club (2002): 8.0
3. Love and Peace (2015): 8.0
4. Tokyo Tribe (2014): 8.0
5. The Whispering Star (2015): 7.5
6. Tag (2015): 7.2
7. Love Exposure (2008): 7.2
8. Cold Fish (2010): 7.0
9. Anti-Porno (2016): 7.0
10. The Land of Hope (2012): 6.5
11. Himizu (2011): 6.0
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Haven't seen any of Sono's work, but do intend to check out some of his stuff at some point. Good to see high ratings for a variety of his films from several different folks here.
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AB537 wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 12:50 pm Haven't seen any of Sono's work, but do intend to check out some of his stuff at some point. Good to see high ratings for a variety of his films from several different folks here.
Yea, while you'll see varying degrees of affection for everything he's made since Suicide Club, the general consensus is that everything before Suicide Club is not great. Not sure what it is about that film specifically, but something about that time period seemed to change his philosophy on filmmaking.
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8/10
Why Don't You Play in Hell?

7/10
Noriko's Dinner Table
Suicide Club
Love Exposure
Cold Fish
Strange Circus

6/10
Guilty of Romance

5/10
Himizu
Love & Peace

4/10
Tokyo Tribe
Tag
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flavo5000 wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 1:48 pm
AB537 wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 12:50 pm Haven't seen any of Sono's work, but do intend to check out some of his stuff at some point. Good to see high ratings for a variety of his films from several different folks here.
Yea, while you'll see varying degrees of affection for everything he's made since Suicide Club, the general consensus is that everything before Suicide Club is not great. Not sure what it is about that film specifically, but something about that time period seemed to change his philosophy on filmmaking.
Suicide Club is the first one I saw of him. In fact, it was presented at the IFFR as kind of a debut feature of "the poet" Sion Sono. I was kinda amazed to discover much later that in fact he had been making movies kinda from the start of his working life though. From that period i have only seen Bicycle Sighs so far, which i found to be very good. But it is much more 80's 8mm/16mm art than the more glossy and commercial work he has become known for. I can understand people expecting the one and getting the other ending up not liking it, but I don't think the early period can so easily be dismissed.
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The timing of Suicide Club was also crucial, with many distributors looking for whatever they could sell as "Japanese horror" in the wake of hits like Ringu and Ju-On.
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Onderhond wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 2:53 pm The timing of Suicide Club was also crucial, with many distributors looking for whatever they could sell as "Japanese horror" in the wake of hits like Ringu and Ju-On.
I totally see it in the vein of the also phenomenal successful Battle Royale and to some degrees the more popular Miike works, but yep, those were the days :)

Yeah, our users' ratings and rankings are totally mixed for Sono. Good sign, I guess?
Lonewolf2003 wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 10:06 am I like Sono, but I always have the feeling I should/could love his work more than I do. And I mean should, as in being align to my personal taste and preferences.
Exactly what I feel. Although I even have (had?) a bit more problems with connecting and could just have solved them for the 2010s .. :)
Onderhond wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 8:26 am I like Sion Sono. Not quite as much as Miike
Exac...kinda what I feel :D
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Clearly I have a ton left to see and although my ratings look a bit average and I dislike the same aspects on most films over and over again (cheapish look (no grain, not saturated), often overlong, similar topics, heavy on dialogue and escalation, classical score I dislike), I am getting increasingly curious about finishing off some of the more popular rest. So far:

(7,5 and 7/10)
1. Love Exposure
2. Cold Fish
3. Himizu
4. Why Don't You Play In Hell?
(6/10)
5. Guilty of Romance
6. Suicide Club
7. The Forest of Love
(5/10)
8. Exte
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Time for another! After Zulawski (a while back) I thought we also needed to go for... David Cronenberg! https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000343/
Both have a thoughtful approach to material that would be generic "genre" fare in the hands of other directors. Both have an interest in psychology. Both have sons that also took up directing that I'm going to lump in with the ranking (because their body of work is too small to be ranking it solo at this time) :)
And since this is an English speaking director with some mainstream success, hopefully more people are able to join in!

ratings out of 5-stars

1 - Videodrome - 1983 - 5
2 - Cosmopolis - 2012 - 5
3 - eXistenZ - 1999 - 4,5
4 - Scanners - 1981 - 4,5
5 - The Fly - 1986 - 4
6 - Crash - 1996 - 4
7 - A History of Violence - 2005 - 4
8 - Eastern Promises - 2007 - 4
9 - M. Butterfly - 1993 - 4
10 - Shivers - 1975 - 4
11 - Naked Lunch - 1991 - 4
12 - The Brood - 1979 - 3,5
13 - Dead Ringers - 1988 - 3,5
14 - Maps to the Stars - 2014 - 3,5
15 - Rabid - 1977 - 3,5
16 - Spider - 2002 - 3,5
17 - The Dead Zone - 1983 - 3,5
18 - Stereo - 1969 - 3,5
19 - A Dangerous Method - 2011 - 3
20 - Fast Company - 1979 - 3
21 - Crimes of the Future - 1970 - 2,5

Brandon Cronenberg

1. Antiviral (2012) - 4.5
2. Possessor (2020) - 4.5

Hitting home runs right out of the gate!
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David Cronenberg. 22 seen, 2.02* average.

Someone with interesting ideas, it's just that I don't think he's a very good director.

01. 3.5* - Naked Lunch
02. 3.0* - M. Butterfly
03. 3.0* - Dead Ringers
04. 3.0* - Stereo
05. 3.0* - Rabid
05. 3.0* - Eastern Promises
07. 3.0* - Chacun Son Cinéma
08. 2.5* - Spider
09. 2.5* - Videodrome
10. 2.5* - The Fly
11. 2.5* - The Dead Zone
12. 2.0* - Crash
13. 2.0* - Maps to the Stars
14. 1.5* - The Brood
15. 1.5* - A Dangerous Method
16. 1.5* - Fast Company
17. 1.0* - eXistenZ
18. 1.0* - Crimes of the Future
19. 1.0* - A History of Violence
20. 0.5* - Scanners
21. 0.5* - Shivers
22. 0.5* - Cosmopolis

Brandon Cronenberg. Much, much, much better:

01. 4.0* - Possessor
02. 4.0* - Antiviral
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Oh Canada! As usual, the tiers are in relation just to this director's works and not in comparison to any other directors.

Top Tier
The Fly
A History of Violence
Videodrome
Dead Ringers
Scanners
Spider
Rabid

Mid Tier
Eastern Promises
Existenz
Naked Lunch
Crash
The Dead Zone
The Brood
Cosmopolis
Shivers
M. Butterfly
Stereo
Crimes of the Future
The Nest
The Lie Chair

Bottom Tier
A Dangerous Method
Map to the Stars
The Italian Machine
Fast Company
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David Cronenberg
Shivers (1975) 9
Videodrome (1983) 9
Scanners (1981) 8

The Dead Zone (1983) 7+
Naked Lunch (1991) 7
The Brood (1979) 7
Rabid (1977) 7
The Fly (1986) 7
Dead Ringers (1988) 7

Crash (1996) 6
eXistenZ (1999) 6
Crimes of the Future (1970) 5

haven't seen any of his post-90s films...



Brandon Cronenberg
Possessor (2020) 8
Antiviral (2012) 7+
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flavo5000 wrote: June 26th, 2021, 12:58 pm As usual, the tiers are in relation just to this director's works and not in comparison to any other directors.
It's a fair system for our directors exercise and you're known for working without simplistic x/10 ratings. It's the flavo way.
But when I see some of our examples so far, I realize it would be deceptive for me. Just thinking of Jess Franco .. Vampyros Lesbos, arguably one of his best, would be called top tier by me and some others, and it's about a 5/10 in my book, above-B-movie-average cult fare, still no "good" film. His bottom tier is complete trash. If I were to rank the filmography of Akira Kurosawa, his top tier is several of the best films I have ever seen from Japan and film history, actually, and the "bottom" tier is a couple of very good films which have no flaws. So.
For Cronenberg, it's about 2/3 in the middle - a fascinating vision overall, though one were the cult & genre work isn't exactly my taste and the psychological constituent something that I can see and "get", but feel to be a bit overrated by fans and critics. Still someone with a safe spot in my personal Top 50 of directors, because how many Cronenbergs are there?*

(8/10)
1. Naked Lunch (1991)
2. Eastern Promises (2007)
3. A History of Violence (2005)
(7,5 and 7/10)
4. Videodrome (1983)
5. eXistenZ (1999)
6. The Fly (1986)
7. Crash (1996)
8. The Brood (1979)
9. Spider (2002)
10. Dead Ringers (1988)
11. The Dead Zone (1983)
12. M. Butterfly (1993)
(6/10ish)
13. Shivers (1975)
14. Scanners (1981)
(5/10 and less, ugh)
15. Maps to the Stars (2014)
16. Cosmopolis (2012)


*Yes, two as of now, meh - you know what I mean. :lol: I actually still have to see Possessor and am very excited :)

Note how Onderhond and I share the same lunchy #1. Sure sign that something must be odd about it.
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Typical director I'm not in the least interested in. Total grey area.

1. A History of Violence 4/10
"Art is like a fire, it is born from the very thing it burns" - Jean-Luc Godard
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1. 7.8 - Dead Ringers (1988)
2. 7.8 - Naked Lunch (1991)
3. 7.6 - eXistenZ (1999)
4. 7.6 - Videodrome (1983)
5. 7.6 - Spider (2002)
6. 7.4 - The Brood (1979)
7. 7.0 - Crash (1996)

I like his films, but I haven't loved any of them yet.

I thought he was great in Last Night (1998) though. :)
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Brilliant

Cosmopolis (2012)
Naked Lunch (1991)
Dead Ringers (1988)
Maps to the Stars (2014)

Great

eXistenZ (1999)
Eastern Promises (2007)
Videodrome (1983)
Crash (1996)
M. Butterfly (1993)

Good

The Brood (1979)
The Dead Zone (1983)
A History of Violence (2005)
Rabid (1977)
Stereo (1969)
Spider (2002)
The Fly (1986)
Scanners (1981)
Shivers (1975)
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Great director (if I manage to forget that 'maps' thing..)

8/10

Dead Ringers
A Dangerous Method
A History of Violence
The Fly
Shivers

7/10

Eastern Promises
The Dead Zone

5/10

The Nest (short)

1/10

Maps to the Stars
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Seen a few.

1. The Brood - 9/10
2. Videodrome - 7.5/10
3. Rabid - 7.5/10
4. Scanners - 7/10
5. The Fly - 7/10
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Safe to say that Cronen's work from 2012 & 2014 was divisive ..
Cinepolis wrote: June 26th, 2021, 11:36 pm Seen a few.
Hehe, those are almost exclusively from his early & horror period. Time for you to explore where he has gone after. :sweat:
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Torgo wrote: June 27th, 2021, 3:44 am Hehe, those are almost exclusively from his early & horror period. Time for you to explore where he has gone after. :sweat:
I know, I will catch up with his more recent efforts over time but I'm honestly more interested in his other early stuff like "Dead Ringers" and "Naked Lunch". But I have "Eastern Promises" on Blu-Ray lying around, so we'll see.
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David Cronenberg

I'm not as sold on his more recent stuff as many critics are.

(As always there's a few I need to rewatch like 'Crash' and 'Dead Ringers'.)

Great
1. Shivers (1975)
2. Rabid (1977)
3. The Brood (1979)
4. Videodrome (1983)
5. Naked Lunch (1991)

Good
6. The Dead Zone (1983)
7. eXistenZ (1999)
8. The Fly (1986)
9. Scanners (1981)

OK
10. Eastern Promises (2007)
11. A Dangerous Method (2011)
12. Cosmopolis (2012)

Nah
13. M. Butterfly (1993)
14. Crash (1996)
15. Dead Ringers (1988)
16. A History of Violence (2005)
17. Spider (2002)
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I saw The Fly rather in de beginning of my ‘serious film watching career’ and was immediately drawn to this man and his films. Watched them all, liked most of them, rewatched about half of them (*=in cinema). The Cronenberg exhibition in EYE (Amsterdam) in 2014 was simply great. A lot of home-made props, sketches and even the official stuff (eXistenZ gun, Naked lunch typewriter, etc) looked not even that professional, which paradoxically contributed to the love it showed to filmmaking, film language and Cronenberg’s personal touch and style. Here’s my votes:


David Cronenberg

★★★★½ | 9.2
01. Crash (1996)*
02. Dead Ringers (1988)

★★★★¼ | 8.8
03. Cosmopolis (2012)*

★★★★ | 8.4
04. Videodrome (1982)
05. Stereo (1969)*

★★★¾ | 8.0
06. Rabid (1976)

★★★½ | 7.6
07. eXistenZ (1999)*
08. The Dead Zone (1983)

★★★¼ | 7.2
09. Maps to the Stars (2014)*
10. The Fly (1986)

★★★ | 6.8
11. Eastern Promises (2007)*
12. Naked Lunch (1991)
13. Scanners (1980)*
14. The Brood (1979)

★★¾ | 6.4
15. A History of Violence (2005)*

★★½ | 6.0
16. Shivers (1975)
17. Spider (2002)*

★★¼ | 5.5
18. Crimes of the Future (1970)*

★★ | 5.0
19. Fast Company (1978)

★½ | 4.0
20. M. Butterfly (1993)

★¼ | 3.5
21. A Dangerous Method (2011)*

N/R
At the Suicide of the Last Jew in the World in the Last Cinema of the World (2007), segment from ‘Chacun Son Cinéma’



Brandon Cronenberg

★★★½ | 7.6
01. Possessor (2019)

★★★¼ | 7.2
02. Antiviral (2012)*

An examplary case of ‘Like Father, Like Son’
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It’s been a busy week with work, birthday celebrations and house renovation, so I sadly couldn’t find the time to establish my image of a sour contributor to this topic to list my experiences with Mr. Sono…

Am a great fan of Japanese film, but I think, to qoute Jon Bon Jovi “Sion Sono gives Japanese cinema a bad name”. I don’t get the praise he gets. Though all his films listed here are in my 1200+ Japanese dvd/br collection, two of them (Tag and Why Don’t You Play in Hell are gathering dust for some years now) and his latest output on Netflix is only up after I watched Rambo III and maybe a hundred titles of other stuff. Given the ratings and exposure he gets here and at festivals I consider Sono one of the most overrated directors living or dead. I can’t think of a contemporary Japanese director I like less. It started rather promising though…


Sion Sono

★★★★¼ | 8.8
01. Himizu (2011)

★★★¾ | 8.0
02. Suicide Circle (2001)
03. Strange Circus (2005)

★★★½ | 7.6
04. Bicycle Sighs (1990)
05. The Whispering Star (2015)

★★★¼ | 7.2
06. Noriko’s Dinner Table (2005)
07. The Land of Hope (2012)

★★¾ | 6.4
08. Exte: Hair Extensions (2007)

★★½ | 6.0
09. Tokyo Tribe (2014)

★★¼ | 5.5
10. Cold Fish (2010)
11. Guilty of Romance (2011)

★★ | 5.0
12. Love Exposure (2008)
13. Hazard (2005)

★¾ | 4.5
14. Love & Peace (2015)

★ | 3.0
15. Antiporno (2016)
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Cosmopolis seems to be his most divisive film, so I am glad both Gloede and Yume like it as much as I do :)
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David Cronenberg

The Fly (1986) 8

eXistenZ (1999) 7
Dead Ringers (1988)
Videodrome (1983)
Eastern Promises (2007)
A Dangerous Method (2011)
Scanners (1981)
Rabid (1977)

Crash (1996) 6
Maps to the Stars (2014)
Spider (2002)
A History of Violence (2005)

The Brood (1979) 5

Cosmopolis (2012) 4
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9+
Videodrome

8+
Dead Ringers
The Fly
eXistenZ
Cosmopolis
Naked Lunch
A History of Violence

7+
The Brood
Eastern Promises
Scanners
Crash
Shivers
The Dead Zone

6+
Rabid
Spider
Maps to the Stars
Stereo
A Dangerous Method

<6
M. Butterfly
Crimes of the Future
Fast Company


Brandon I've seen Antiviral only, was okay. Possessor is high on the watchlist. Good to see David has a new one in works, unknown yet if it is a remake of Crimes of the Future or just same title. that is one of his weakest but maybe there's potential in the idea to make a much better film. I was wondering if he'd make a film from his novel Consumed.
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Seen quite a few Cronenbergs, although I think the ideas are often more interesting than the execution. Body horror also tends not to be my preferred subgenre, though my horror taste is pretty eclectic.

Great

Very Good

A History of Violence (2005)

Good

eXistenZ (1999)
Eastern Promises (2007)

Above Average

The Dead Zone (1983)
Videodrome (1983)
The Fly (1986)
A Dangerous Method (2011)

Okay

Shivers (1975)
Rabid (1977)
The Brood (1979)
Dead Ringers (1988)
Spider (2002)
Cosmpolis (2012)
Maps to the Stars (2014)

Not Good

Naked Lunch (1991)
Crash (1996)

I've seen Brandon Cronenberg's Antiviral, but it didn't make much of an impression either way and it was long enough ago that I don't remember much.

The only film I've seen from Theo Angelopoulos was his excellent 1998 Palme d'Or winner Mia aioniotita kai mia mera/Eternity and a Day, which would fall into my "Very Good" category above. Availability has been a real challenge for me with Angelopoulos, but I've somewhat recently (within the last year) become aware of a DVD rental place here that has some of his films - Eternity and a Day was my first rental from the store (!) - so looking forward to watching more.
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AB537 wrote: June 27th, 2021, 1:51 pm Seen quite a few Cronenbergs, although I think the ideas are often more interesting than the execution. Body horror also tends not to be my preferred subgenre, though my horror taste is pretty eclectic.

Great

Very Good

A History of Violence (2005)

Good

eXistenZ (1999)
Eastern Promises (2007)

Above Average

The Dead Zone (1983)
Videodrome (1983)
The Fly (1986)
A Dangerous Method (2011)

Okay

Shivers (1975)
Rabid (1977)
The Brood (1979)
Dead Ringers (1988)
Spider (2002)
Cosmpolis (2012)
Maps to the Stars (2014)

Not Good

Naked Lunch (1991)
Crash (1996)

I've seen Brandon Cronenberg's Antiviral, but it didn't make much of an impression either way and it was long enough ago that I don't remember much.

The only film I've seen from Theo Angelopoulos was his excellent 1998 Palme d'Or winner Mia aioniotita kai mia mera/Eternity and a Day, which would fall into my "Very Good" category above. Availability has been a real challenge for me with Angelopoulos, but I've somewhat recently (within the last year) become aware of a DVD rental place here that has some of his films - Eternity and a Day was my first rental from the store (!) - so looking forward to watching more.
If you can get your hands on a region-free player, Curzon Artificial Eye has released his entire filmography in three boxsets.
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