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Post by Gymnopedie » January 13th, 2018, 6:24 pm

What are your favorite Documentaries? I love documentaries! They can be depressing, disturbing or just plain sick - but they are never boring, that is for sure. So here is what I rated 8 plus, in order:

Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father 2008
Hitman Hart: Wrestling with Shadows 1998
Murder on a Sunday Morning 2001
Beyond the Mat 1999
Boy Interrupted 2009
Goodnight, Sugar Babe: The Killing of Vera Jo Reigle 2013
Just, Melvin: Just Evil 2000
Rain In My Heart 2006
My Amityville Horror 2012
Night Will Fall 2014
9/11: The Falling Man 2006
Shoah 1985
The Bridge 2006
Into the Abyss 2011
Man on Wire 2008
Capturing the Friedmans 2003
George Harrison: Living in the Material World 2011
Deliver Us from Evil 2006
The Thin Blue Line 1988
The House of Suh 2010
Witch Hunt 2008
Silverlake Life: The View from Here 1993
There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane 2011
Black Tar Heroin: The Dark End of the Street 2000
The Battle of Chernobyl 2006
Pervert Park 2014
The Imposter 2012
High on Crack Street: Lost Lives in Lowell 1995
Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills 1996
Children of Darkness 1983
Brother's Keeper 1992
102 Minutes That Changed America 2008
Grizzly Man 2005
My Flesh and Blood 2003
One Million Dubliners 2014
UFO's Are Real 1979
Out of the Blue 2002
Dreamland: Area 51 1996
UFOs: It Has Begun 1979
I Know What I Saw 2009
Rats 2016
The Times of Harvey Milk 1984
Alcatraz: Search for the Truth 2015
The Trials Of Darryl Hunt 2007
A Haunting in Georgia 2001
A Haunting In Connecticut 2002
A Certain Kind of Death 2003
Sick: The Life and Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist 1997
Bobby Sands: 66 Days 2016
Building Chernobyl's MegaTomb 2017
Interview with a Cannibal 2008
Horror Europa with Mark Gatiss 2012
The Farthest 2017
Thought Crimes 2015
Koyaanisqatsi 1982
Mr. Death: The Rise and Fall of Fred A. Leuchter, Jr. 1999
Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples Temple 2006
Super Size Me 2004
Memory of the Camps 2014
Fahrenheit 9/11 2004
Video Nasties: Moral Panic, Censorship & Videotape 2010
The Flight That Fought Back 2004
Terry Pratchett: Choosing to Die 2011
Who Took Johnny 2014
The Man Who Predicted 9-11 2005
Close to You: Remembering the Carpenters 1998
Only Yesterday - The Carpenters Story 2007
Valentine Road 2013
The Real Amityville Horror 2005
Interview with a Poltergeist 2007
Inside Porton Down: Britain's Secret Weapons Research Facility 2016
The Brandon Teena Story 1998
The Woman Who Wasn't There 2012
Richard Hammond Meets Evel Knievel 2007
Gates of Heaven 1978
The Fear of 13 2015
Liberation Day 2016
The Cheshire Murders 2013
The Genius of Marie Curie: The Woman Who Lit up the World 2013
Titicut Follies 1967
The Suicide Tourist 2007
Killer Legends 2014
Being Evel 2015
March of the Penguins 2005
Men at Lunch 2012
Jesus Camp 2006


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Post by Mate_cosido » January 13th, 2018, 6:37 pm

I also love documentaries but is a genre that i have neglected a little, this are some of my favourites

Comment Yukong déplaça les montagnes
Harlan County U.S.A.
La hora de los hornos: Notas y testimonios sobre el neocolonialismo, la violencia y la liberación
As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty
Songhwan
Salaam Cinema
Die große Ekstase des Bildschnitzers Steiner
Bumming in Beijing: The Last Dreamers
The Trap: What Happened to Our Dream of Freedom
Sanrizuka: Peasants of the Second Fortress
Shestaya chast mira
Bei xi mo shou
Encounters at the End of the World
Cameraperson
Cabra Marcado Para Morrer
Yuki yukite, shingun
Land des Schweigens und der Dunkelheit
Little Dieter Needs to Fly
El sol del membrillo
Obrazy starého sveta
La batalla de Chile: La lucha de un pueblo sin armas
Cave of Forgotten Dreams
Chelovek s kino-apparatom
Cosmos
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » January 13th, 2018, 6:54 pm

One of my favourite genres. All the documentaries on my favourite films list. Grouped by rating and then alphabetical:
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5/5

Autobiografia lui Nicolae Ceaușescu [The Autobiography of Nicolae Ceausescu] (2010)
Black Harvest (1992)
Die Geschichte vom weinenden Kamel [The Story of the Weeping Camel] (2003)
Hoop Dreams (1994)
Moeder Dao, de schildpadgelijkende [Mother Dao, the Turtlelike] (1995)

4.5/5

Behindert [Impotent] (1974)
Domestic Violence (2001)
Dying at Grace (2003)
The Face of Britain (1935)
Film Portrait (1972)
Gallivant (1997)
Grass: A Nation's Battle for Life (1925)
The Great White Silence (1924)
Die große Stille [Into Great Silence] (2005)
I Think They Call Him John (1964)
Juvenile Court (1973)
Leviathan (2012)
Of Time and the City (2008)
Ornette: Made in America (1985)
Route One/USA (1989)
The Savage Eye (1960)
El Sicario: Room 164 (2010
El sol del membrillo [The Quince Tree Sun] (1992)
Two Years at Sea (2011)
این فیلم نیست [This Is Not a Film] (2011)
خانه سیاه است [The House Is Black] (1962)
Блокада [Blockade] (2005)
Да здравствует Мексика! [Que Viva Mexico!] (1979)
Человек с киноаппаратом [Man With a Movie Camera] (1929)
&#2360;&#2367;&#2342;&#2381;&#2343;&#2375;&#2358;&#2381;&#2357;&#2352;&#2368; [Siddheshwari] (1989)
&#24754;&#20846;&#39764;&#20861; [Behemoth] (2015)
&#30127;&#29233; ['Til Madness Do Us Part] (2013)

4/5

&#45804;&#54077;&#51060;&#51032; &#48324; [Planet of Snail] (2011)
79 primaveras [79 Springs] (1969)
The Act of Seeing With One's Own Eyes (1971)
Adjustment and Work (1986)
Akt-Skulpturen. Studienfilm für bildende Künstler [Live Sculptures: Film Study for Screen Artist] (1903)
At Sea (2007)
La bête lumineuse [The Shimmering Beast] (1982)
Beyond Zero: 1914-1918 (2014)
Blind (1987)
Come Back, Africa (1960)
Comment Yukong déplaça les montagnes [How Yukong Moved the Mountains] (1976)
&#12373;&#12424;&#12358;&#12394;&#12425;CP [Goodbye CP] (1972)
D'est [From the East] (1993)
Elégia [Elegy] (1965)
The Epic of Everest (1924)
Fuocoammare [Fire at Sea] (2016)
Himmel und Erde (1982)
Hospital (1970)
L' image manquante [The Missing Picture] (2013)
In Jackson Heights (2015)
Isole di fuoco (1954)
Le joli mai [The Lovely Month of May] (1963)
Land des Schweigens und der Dunkelheit: aus dem Leben der taubblinden Fini Straubinger [Land of Silence and Darkness] (1971)
Level Five (1997)
London Can Take It! (1940)
A Married Couple (1969)
The Moon and the Sledgehammer (1971)
Multi-Handicapped (1986)
München-Berlin Wanderung (1927)
Le mystère Picasso [The Mystery of Picasso] (1956)
Native Land (1942)
Nazi Concentration Camps (1945)
Nevinost bez zaštite [Innocence Unprotected] (1968)
Night Mail (1936)
North Sea (1938)
Nuit et brouillard [Night and Fog] (1956)
Olympia 1. Teil – Fest der Völker [Olympia Part One – Festival of the Nations] (1938)
Olympia 2. Teil – Fest der Schönheit [Olympia Part Two – Festival of Beauty] (1938)
The Open Road (1926)
Out of the Present (1995)
Pescherecci [Fishing Boats] (1958)
Les plages d'Agnès [The Beaches of Agnès] (2008)
Polissons et galipettes [The Good Old Naughty Days] (2002)
Poslední z rodu [Last of the Clan] (1977)
Poto and Cabengo (1980)
Qu'ils reposent en révolte (Des figures de guerre) [May They Rest in Revolt (Figures of War)] (2010)
Le sang des bêtes [Blood of the Beasts] (1949)
Senna (2010)
Shipyard (1935)
Sleep Furiously (2008)
Stolarz [A Joiner] (1976)
Symbiopsychotaxiplasm: Take One (1968)
La terre des âmes errantes [The Land of the Wandering Souls] (2000)
Le tombeau d'Alexandre [The Last Bolshevik] (1993)
Vom Reiche der sechs Punkte (1927)
Warrendale (1967
De weg naar het zuiden [The Way South] (1981)
Das weiße Stadion (1928)
Welfare (1975)
Window Water Baby Moving (1959)
Wintergartenprogramm (1895)
Wunder der Schöpfung [Our Heavenly Bodies] (1925)
سلام سینما [Salaam Cinema] (1995)
יומן [Diary] (1983)
Духовные голоса. Из дневников войны. Повествование в пяти частях [Spiritual Voices. From the Diaries of the War. The Story in Five Parts] (1995)
Наш век [Our Century] (1983)
Обыкновенный фашизм [Ordinary Fascism] (1965)
Одиннадцатый [The Eleventh Year] (1928)
Турксиб [Turksib] (1929)
Хлебный день [Bread Day] (1998)
Энтузиазм: Симфония Донбасса [Enthusiasm] (1931)
&#4335;&#4312;&#4315; &#4328;&#4309;&#4304;&#4316;&#4311;&#4308; (&#4315;&#4304;&#4320;&#4312;&#4314;&#4312; &#4321;&#4309;&#4304;&#4316;&#4308;&#4311;&#4321;) [Salt for Svanetia] (1930)
&#2343;&#2381;&#2352;&#2369;&#2346;&#2342; [Dhrupad] (1983)
&#24223;&#22478; [Ghost Town] (2008)
&#27700;&#20451; &#24739;&#32773;&#12373;&#12435;&#12392;&#12381;&#12398;&#19990;&#30028; [Minamata - The Victims and Their World] (1971
&#29616;&#23454;&#26159;&#36807;&#21435;&#30340;&#26410;&#26469; [Disorder - The Present is the Future of the Past] (2009)
&#30053;&#31216;&#12539;&#36899;&#32154;&#23556;&#27578;&#39764; [Serial Killer] (1975)
&#38081;&#35199;&#21306; [Tie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks] (2002)
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Post by maxwelldeux » January 13th, 2018, 8:35 pm

Too bad you didn't sign up for the forum here about a month earlier... we ran our Documentary challenge in December. :)

Here are mine that I've rated 8+/10:

13th (2016)
The '85 Bears (2016)
Amanda Knox (2016)
Audrie & Daisy (2016)
Call Me Lucky (2015)
Cave of Forgotten Dreams (2010)
The Central Park Five (2012)
Chasing Tyson (2015)
Citizenfour (2014)
Codebreaker (2011)
Control Room (2004)
Culloden (1964)
Deep Web (2015)
Elway to Marino (2013)
Exit Through the Gift Shop (2010)
Fantastic Lies (2016)
The Fear of 13 (2015)
Four Days in October (2010)
Get Me Roger Stone (2017)
Gore Vidal: The United States of Amnesia (2013)
Hitler's Children (2011)
I Am Jane Doe (2017)
An Inconvenient Truth (2005)
Inside Job (2010)
Kon-Tiki (1950)
Koyaanisqatsi (1982)
Man on Wire (2008)
Man with a Movie Camera (1929)
Nazi Concentration Camps (1945)
Night and Fog (1955)
Nobody Speak: Trials of the Free Press (2017)
Pandora's Promise (2013)
Sugar Coated (2015)
Super Size Me (2004)
Tickled (2016)
Tower (2016)
The War Game (1965)
When the Levees Broke (2005)
Who Took Johnny? (2014)
Winter on Fire (2015)
You Don't Know Bo (2012)

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Post by maxwelldeux » January 13th, 2018, 8:54 pm

@Gymopedie: Looks like we share quite a few favorites. Other thoughts:

Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father 2008 - I really liked this one. Very moving.
Shoah 1985 - I'm in the middle of this one. Slow but powerful so far.
Into the Abyss 2011 - This has been in my queue for longer than I care to admit.
Deliver Us from Evil 2006 - This was poignant and heartbreaking.
The Thin Blue Line 1988 - I enjoyed this, but just didn't quite make the cut for me.
There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane 2011 - The premise of this was intriguing, but the total lack of payoff at the end kinda ruined it for me.
Super Size Me 2004 - This was cool to see in action, but on the other hand, WTF did you think was going to happen if you ate nothing but McDonalds for a month?
Fahrenheit 9/11 2004 - Oh Michael Moore...
Who Took Johnny 2014 - Haunting and underseen. Really good and important.
Jesus Camp 2006 - Rewatched this recently with my wife, but she had to leave the room and refused to finish it. She grew up in a cult like this, and it terrified her.

@Mate_cosido: From memory, it looks like I've only seen 2 or 3 of yours...

Woodcarver Steiner: Stupid premise, but a really engaging documentary. Herzog kicks ass.
Cave of Forgotten Dreams: Blew my mind. Gorgeous and amazing. And a perfect example of "get out of the way and let the subject do the talking" in filmmaking.
Cosmos - I've seen the new series, but not the original. Amazing and informative.

@xxx: I think I've only seen a small handful of yours, too.

Man with a Movie Camera: Exactly the sort of doc that I tend not to like, but I really enjoyed this one. Even with its simplicity, it was remarkably informative.
Nazi Concentration Camps: The story behind this doc is part of what makes it so powerful for me. The thought that what they found was so horrific and unbelievable that they knew they had to document it.

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Post by joachimt » January 13th, 2018, 9:06 pm

Poll-results from this forum in 2015:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icm+ ... ulanarchy/
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Post by albajos » January 13th, 2018, 9:11 pm

You mean, my favorites except from Hoop Dreams?

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Post by fori » January 14th, 2018, 12:49 am

The best doco I have seen is News From Ideological Antiquity: https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/nac ... s+kapital/

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Post by mathiasa » January 14th, 2018, 1:03 am

Black Harvest
Miejsce urodzenia
Himmel und Erde
Yuki yukite, shingun
The Hellstrom Chronicle
Par desmit minutem vecaks
Grass: A Nation's Battle for Life
Grizzly Man

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Post by RBG » January 14th, 2018, 1:16 am

i got a fave docs list on letterboxd

https://letterboxd.com/rischka/list/doc ... favorites/
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Post by sebby » January 14th, 2018, 7:06 am

Hoop Dreams can't be fucked with.

Other faves:

Welfare
80 Blocks From Tiffany's
The American Dreamer
Ornette: Made in America
The Beaches of Agnes
Sherman's March
Antonio Gaudi
Route One USA
News From Home
Anything Can Happen
Birthplace
D'Est
The Thin Blue Line
Rien que les heures
Fishing with John

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Post by Onderhond » January 14th, 2018, 9:39 pm

I really only have one, which is Antarctica: A Year on Ice. Both beautifully shot AND factually interesting.

I do watch docs on a regular basis since we have Netflix, I find that their descriptions often triggers something that makes me curious to watch them. The result is rarely any good though. Most of them are pure propaganda, factually deceptive and just allround badly made. All those food docs are beyond horrible, stuff like The Cove is just sad, docs about people are rarely trustworthy and absolutely none of them seems to even care about bringing a balanced story. People nowadays seem to be picking an opinion first, only then looking for a docu that supports their opinion. And all these docs are tailored for that.

And the ones that are interesting often don't seem to realize themselves. Watched AlphaGo yesterday, which showed how a "simple" computer program can pierce through millennia worth of human mysticism and romanticism in one single try. But the doc isn't really about that, it's more interested in the match itself with some AI babble on the side.

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Post by Johan_Wow » January 15th, 2018, 11:19 am

Apart from the occasional nature or historical documentary I haven't delved deeply into docu as a movie genre.
So I can't provide a list. Well I'm a big fan of director Herschell Gordon Lewis so I really loved the documentary about him.

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Post by blocho » January 15th, 2018, 3:11 pm

I saw Tower last month, and it hit me in the gut. One of the primary reasons I watch movies is to access feelings in myself that are normally closed off. This movie did that for me. If I kept track of such things, it would be one of the top 10 docs I've seen.

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Post by Onderhond » January 15th, 2018, 3:18 pm

Something like Tower is pretty great, but not a full-blown documentary I guess. It neatly falls in between both worlds though and the result was pretty effective.

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Post by rnilsson19 » January 15th, 2018, 6:22 pm

The Open Road (1926)
Man With a Movie Camera (1929)
Isole di fuoco (1955)
Dont Look Back (1967)
Home Movie: On the Set of Philippe Garrel's 'Le lit de la vierge' (1968)
Monterey Pop (1968)
Gimme Shelter (1970)
Woodstock (1970)
Cracked Actor (1975)
A Respectable Life (1979)
Stations of the Elevated (1981)
Style Wars (1983)
Stop Making Sense (1984)
The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On (1987)
Crumb (1994)
Hoop Dreams (1994)
Los Angeles Plays Itself (2003)
No Direction Home: Bob Dylan (2005)
At Sea (2007)
Reindeerspotting (2010)

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Post by AdamH » January 15th, 2018, 7:33 pm

Hoop Dreams.

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Post by Jimi Antiloop » January 16th, 2018, 10:18 pm

Great topic. I am a documentary lover. Unfortunately there wasn't a Documentary poll on the icm forum since i joined. So, I don't have made a list with my favorite documentaries, yet. I do make it a project for me and will post it, a soon as I am ready.

Last great thing I watched is Alex Gibney's doc Zero Days. :thumbsup: (it's on netflix)
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Post by peeptoad » January 17th, 2018, 3:50 pm

Nice list, Gymno!


Dogtown & Z-Boys (2001)
Style Wars (1983)
Exit Through the Gift Shop (2010)
Koyaanisqatsi (1982)
Powaqqatsi (1988)
Anima Mundi (1992)
Samsara (I) (2011)
Jodorowsky's Dune (2013)
The Barkley Marathons: The Race That Eats Its Young (2014)
Bus 174 (2002)
Magic Trip: Ken Kesey's Search for a Kool Place (2011)
Easy Riders, Raging Bulls: How the Sex, Drugs and Rock 'N' Roll Generation Saved Hollywood (2003)
A Decade Under the Influence (2003)
Birth of the Living Dead (2013)
Berkeley in the Sixties (1990)

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Post by cinephage » January 17th, 2018, 4:19 pm

I shared many titles mentionned here, but I haven't seen The Act of Killing. It Oppenheimer's film disliked on this forum ?

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » January 17th, 2018, 4:24 pm

Some favorites:

Grizzly Man
Haxan
Koyaanisqatsi
Hearts and Minds
Roger & Me
O.J.: Made in America
Capturing the Friedmans
Bowling for Columbine

Paradise Lost (trilogy about the West Memphis Three case)
Hoop Dreams
Crumb
For All Mankind
4 Little Girls
The Salt of the Earth
The Decline of Western Civilization
Cobain: Montage of Heck
Stories We Tell
Powaqqatsi
Chronos
A Brief History of Time
The Thin Blue Line
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Post by maxwelldeux » January 17th, 2018, 8:29 pm

cinephage on Jan 17 2018, 09:19:45 AM wrote:I shared many titles mentionned here, but I haven't seen The Act of Killing. It Oppenheimer's film disliked on this forum ?
I can't speak for others, but I didn't care for it. I found the general concept really intriguing, but the execution (pardon the pun) was underwhelming and the pacing just a bit too slow for what it was.
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My main issue is that these are reprehensible war crimes, but they're underreported in the news and not super well known in the US (thought I suspect this is true of many places). Having these war criminals act out their killing sprees touches on film touches on the overwhelming depths of human depravity - so in that respect, the film was successful. But it just wasn't balanced out with enough factual information to provide any context or background on what was going on. It felt like more of a snuff film than a documentary to me.

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Post by monk-time » January 17th, 2018, 10:05 pm

maxwelldeux on Jan 17 2018, 01:29:52 PM wrote:But it just wasn't balanced out with enough factual information to provide any context or background on what was going on. It felt like more of a snuff film than a documentary to me.
I thought that was a very strong and impressive move: they gave the bare minimum amount of context (IIRC it was just a couple of sentences in the beginning: "the large-scale massacre happened in Indonesia and nobody cared because it was 'our son-of-a-gun'") that was sufficient and accurate enough so that the history wouldn't overshadow the actual, very universal focus of the film. I adore this new breed of documentaries that use the form in a novel and medium-bending kind of way, and even though it's not the first, the intensity of this very personal interaction with ordinary evil at its most banal was just mind-blowing for me. Even a few scenes of authorial voice-over detailing what happened would spoil it; instead the history reveals itself through the butcherer's eyes.
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Post by allisoncm » April 17th, 2018, 5:37 pm

In the USA, Frederick Wiseman documentaries are now streaming on Kanopy (with the exception of Ex Libris which will be out later this year). I'll finally get to see At Berkeley. I had the PBS app, but for some reason, they showed the film on their station and not through their app, so I completely missed it. There are some other good and/or official documentaries by him too.

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Post by maxwelldeux » April 17th, 2018, 6:27 pm

allisoncm on Apr 17 2018, 11:37:35 AM wrote:In the USA, Frederick Wiseman documentaries are now streaming on Kanopy (with the exception of Ex Libris which will be out later this year). I'll finally get to see At Berkeley. I had the PBS app, but for some reason, they showed the film on their station and not through their app, so I completely missed it. There are some other good and/or official documentaries by him too.
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Post by maxwelldeux » June 24th, 2018, 10:02 pm

I watched Herzog's "Lessons of Darkness" today, largely because I stumbled across it on Netflix. Despite actually remembering it, I don't know a whole lot about the first Iraq war, and the fact that this was about that and directed by Herzog was an easy sell for me.

While I can't say I really learned anything from the film, it was gorgeous and enjoyable. Some of the best footage from the area I've seen, and the helicopter/drone shots were worth the watch on their own. Couldn't take my eyes off the film - it was a great example of beauty in horror. Happy to add it to my favorites list.

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Post by blueboybob » June 24th, 2018, 11:24 pm

My top documentaries (probably my favorite genre)

Ice Warriors: USA Sled Hockey -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3511748/
Gleason -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4632316/
Wordplay -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0492506/
Maxed Out: Hard Times, Easy Credit and the Era of Predatory Lenders -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0762117/
Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152758/
The Devil and Daniel Johnston -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436231/
Tyson -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1032821/
The King of Kong -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0923752/
Super Size Me -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390521/
The Bridge -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0799954/
Big Charity: The Death of America's Oldest Hospital -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3528574/
Être et avoir -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318202/
La marche de l'empereur -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0428803/
The Farthest -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6223974/
Young @ Heart -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1047007/
Murderball -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436613/
Paper Clips -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0380615/
Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2395695/
Constitution USA with Peter Sagal -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2874610/
Planet Earth II -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5491994/
Blue Planet II -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6769208/
Cosmos -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081846/
Five Came Back -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6587094/
The Jinx: The Life and Deaths of Robert Durst -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4299972/
The Story of Film: An Odyssey -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2044056/
Soundbreaking: Stories from the Cutting Edge of Recorded Music -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5359830/

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » June 25th, 2018, 5:36 pm

cinephage on Jan 17 2018, 09:19:45 AM wrote:I shared many titles mentionned here, but I haven't seen The Act of Killing. It Oppenheimer's film disliked on this forum ?
I watched that pretty soon after posting my favs in this thread - it would certainly make my list now.
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Post by Mothravka » June 26th, 2018, 1:54 pm

cinephage on Jan 17 2018, 09:19:45 AM wrote:I shared many titles mentionned here, but I haven't seen The Act of Killing. It Oppenheimer's film disliked on this forum ?
It seems to be quite the opposite. It came in at number 20 in this recent poll:
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Post by TajSamKojiJesam » November 17th, 2018, 11:14 am

Here's a mega-list of the best I've seen so far:

1) Minamata: The Victims and Their World (1971) by Noriaki Tsuchimoto
2) Palms (1993) by Artur Aristakisyan
3) Goodbye CP (1972) by Kazuo Hara
4) The House is Black (1963) by Forugh Farrokhzad
5) Sans soleil (1983) by Chris Marker
6) Tie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks (2002) by Bing Wang
7) Homo Sapiens (2016) by Nikolaus Geyrhalter
8) 'Til Madness Do Us Part (2013) by Bing Wang
9) Our Daily Bread (2005) by Nikolaus Geyrhalter
10) Boston Fire (1979) by Peter B. Hutton

11) As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty (2000) by Jonas Mekas
12) A.K.A. Serial Killer (1969) by Masao Adachi
13) The Belovs (1993) by Viktor Kossakovsky
14) Water and Power (1989) by Pat O'Neill
15) Gambling, Gods and LSD (2002) by Peter Mettler
16) 13 Lakes (2004) by James Benning
17) Pictures of the Old World (1972) by Dušan Hanák
18) RR (2007) by James Benning
19) Mind of Clay (1985) by Mani Kaul
20) Dying at Grace (2003) by Allan King

21) Path of Cessation (1974) by Robert Fulton
22) The Act of Seeing with One’s Own Eyes (1971) by Stan Brakhage
23) Afrique 50 (1950) by René Vautier
24) Video Letter (1983) by Shuntarō Tanikawa and Shūji Terayama
25) Skagafjördur (2004) by Peter B. Hutton
26) The Shiranui Sea (1975) by Noriaki Tsuchimoto
27) Blood of the Beasts (1949) by Georges Franju
28) Bread Day (1998) by Sergei Dvortsevoy
29) Window Water Baby Moving (1959) by Stan Brakhage
30) The Sea of Ravens (1931) by Jean Epstein

31) Life, Autumn (1999) by Sergey Loznitsa and Marat Magambetov
32) Tokyo 1958 (1958) by Hiroshi Teshigahara and others
33) Study of a River (1997) by Peter B. Hutton
34) Extreme Private Eros: Love Song 1974 (1974) by Kazuo Hara
35) Poto and Cabengo (1980) by Jean-Pierre Gorin
36) The Man Leaves (1968) by Martin Slivka
37) Man with a Movie Camera (1929) by Dziga Vertov
38) Images of the World and the Inscription of War (1989) by Harun Farocki
39) Blockade (2005) by Sergey Loznitsa
40) Water-mirror of Granada (1955) by José Val del Omar

41) Larisa (1980) by Elem Klimov
42) Jaime (1974) by António Reis
43) The Absence of Apricots (2018) by Daniel Asadi Faezi
44) Sink or Swim (1990) by Su Friedrich
45) The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On (1987) by Kazuo Hara
46) The Weavers of Nishijin (1962) by Toshio Matsumoto
47) A Man Vanishes (1967) by Shōhei Imamura
48) A (1998) by Tatsuya Mori
49) A Japanese Village (1982) by Shinsuke Ogawa
50) The Circle of the Drowned Men (2007) by Pierre-Yves Vandeweerd

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Post by Gershwin » November 17th, 2018, 9:21 pm

Lots of my favourites there. I'll have to watchlist some of the ones I haven't seen.
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Post by monty » November 24th, 2018, 11:40 pm

Watched this one tonight - a scary-as-hell look at children having to endure the nightmare of the so-called Islamic Caliphate. Strongly recommended viewing.

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Post by Onderhond » October 8th, 2019, 9:06 pm

Would like to recommend American Factory.

It's one of those rare docs that document, rather than trying to push an opinion through. The subject is interesting enough, the film feels fair and the different sides are allowed to tell their stories. But the most interesting part is that there aren't any real villains or heroes here. It's a catch-22 situation were everyone seems to lose and where no easy answer presents itself. It's a good thing then that the doc doesn't even attempt to come up with a way forward, but is happy just documenting this particularly tricky bit of reality.

I wish more docs were like this, instead of the sappy, opinionated propaganda that disguises itself as docs these days.

Edit: oh, and it's on Netflix, so availability shouldn't be a problem.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » October 8th, 2019, 9:26 pm

Documentaries are still an artistic medium, and I feel like objectivity doesn't belong in art. Hell, I'm not sure if it's even possible. The facts may be presented by how they are, but the act of taking and omitting certain details is an opinion of what feels valid or not. Some people may omit one thing while others may omit another. Besides, we could even argue if objectivity is even possible.

I haven't seen this film, but looking at the reviews of it and they all seem to go for one side. The plot of it sounds exactly the same as the film Black Harvest, which you could argue shows no real villains or heroes, but it seems like the vast majority of people that see it side with one of the "teams".

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Post by Onderhond » October 8th, 2019, 10:09 pm

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
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Documentaries are still an artistic medium, and I feel like objectivity doesn't belong in art.
Well, I feel propaganda doesn't belong in documentaries, if only because most people see them as a fair reflection of reality. Of course there is always some editorial freedom, but I see that as craft rather than art.

That doesn't mean documentaries can't blur the line between fiction and reality, or they have to be explicitly objective, but most current day docs pretend to be just that and most of those environment docs, food docs, political docs, science docs and whatnot are anything but truthful and fair. Instead they try to push some agendas through lies and half-truths.

Also, I'm sure that people going in this doc with a fixed mindset will end up "choosing teams" (because they had a favorite team going in and we all know that narrative trumps fact, #mytruth and all), but many reviews on IMDb seem to point to a more balanced documentary.

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Post by Coryn » October 9th, 2019, 6:00 am

Paradise lost is awesome and played a big part in some of the people's lives who showed up in it. It's not the most artistic documentary but definitely one of my favorites. The plot twists, characters and the whole story itself is just so surreal.
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Post by RBG » October 9th, 2019, 6:07 am

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Post by yllow » October 9th, 2019, 9:47 am

Little Deiter Needs to Fly - so much more powerful than Rescue Dawn

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Post by cinewest » October 10th, 2019, 4:43 am

Documentary film has come a long way in my opinion, becoming more and more imaginative in the process, especially in the past 20 years or as it has begun employing more and more cinematic technique and narrative approaches.

I rarely included documentaries among my yearly top 10 or 20 before the 2000's, but nowadays there are always a few, and as far as English language films go, it has been perhaps the most creative "genre" (apart from the technical wizardry of big budget filmmaking), at least in terms of the approach to storytelling and employment of a much richer palette than was typically used in the past.

One of the things that constrained docs. in the past was lack of imagination, perhaps due to the filmmaker's "serious" intentions, which were "subject driven," "essay" like, or attempts to give viewers an experience of some real life event or situation. Unfortunately, there was too often a serious lack of creativity in the employment of cinema, which often involved uninspired camera work and a limited approach to narrative, i.e.cinema more as a document or investigation of someone or something that took place, along with talking head commentaries and/or Q & A's.
Of course, there were always those documentarians who went further, as well as those who captured something quite powerful within their self-imposed limitations.

The first doc. to crack my yearly top 5 was Alain Resnais' Nuit et brouillard (1956), a very powerful and poetic film about the holocaust. Some of the first docs.I saw that employed characteristics of fictional storytelling were films like F for Fake (1973), and Gates of Heaven (1978). And two of my all time favorites from the 80's are the kaleidoscopic Koyaanisqatsi (1982), and Sans Soleil (1983). A few from the 90's that really stood out for me were the passionate Lachto Drom (1993), Hoop Dreams (1994), and When We Were Kings (1996), one of which harnessed the power of music, and two others, the heroic quality of sport's competition.

In the past, it seemed to be certain informative documentaries (or series) made for television that provided the reference point documentarians, who operated like traditional journalists or educators, but in the past 20 years, documentary filmmakers have gotten much more explorative with the form, and in ways that have pushed beyond the boundaries that once seemed constrained by their ability to express themselves artistically, perhaps in part because many filmmakers who also make fictional features have turned to the documentary as a "genre" rather than as something separate altogether.

I will come back to this with a list of my more recent favorites, with commentary at my next opportunity, but would like to welcome those interested in engaging the discussion more.

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Post by Onderhond » October 10th, 2019, 8:57 am

I honestly don't mind the shift to more artistic interpretations of documentaries, as long as they are honest about their intentions. What I hate is the cinematic influence on documentaries that pretend to be informative of to be documenting a true story.

From the ones you mentioned I saw Nuit & Brouillard and Koyaanisqatsi, didn't find them very impressive. That's more a matter of taste than general objection against the medium though. I was talking about docs like The Cove, Cowspiracy, Fahrenheit 9/11, What the Health, DMT: The Spirit Molecule, Surviving Progress, Miss Representation and some other crap that feels more like watching an internet rant rather than a serious piece of film making.

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