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Post by xianjiro » August 8th, 2018, 7:32 pm


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Post by albajos » August 8th, 2018, 7:44 pm

Other festivals do have an Audience Award

But as long as we know that the only reason that they are adding this is because they are losing viewers, so this is more bitter than sweet. Well, this will turn into the Marvel award perhaps.

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Post by blueboybob » August 8th, 2018, 10:36 pm

I wonder when they will have "Best Lead" and "Best Co-Lead" instead of actor/actress.

You know with how progressive Hollywood is and the whole gender stuff going on right now.

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Post by RedHawk10 » August 8th, 2018, 11:00 pm

It's a hilariously dumb move that doesn't make sense on multiple levels.

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Post by xianjiro » August 9th, 2018, 5:00 am

And this year's winner in the best shitty foreign box office vehicle goes to ...

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#6

Post by tommy_leazaq » August 9th, 2018, 5:29 am

Well played, Disney!

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Post by brokenface » August 9th, 2018, 7:15 am

blueboybob wrote:
August 8th, 2018, 10:36 pm
I wonder when they will have "Best Lead" and "Best Co-Lead" instead of actor/actress.

You know with how progressive Hollywood is and the whole gender stuff going on right now.
More likely to introduce Best Female Director

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Post by xianjiro » August 9th, 2018, 8:30 am

Best Nonwhite Actor?

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Post by sol » August 9th, 2018, 12:24 pm

Ridiculous decision, though of the new raft of proposed changes, what irks me the most in the idea of having the "minor awards" presented during ad breaks in order to ensure that the ceremony does not go over three hours, since the long runtime is apparently part of what is causing viewers to tune out. Okay, I don't particular care about something like Documentary Short for which I have seen none of the nominees, but Editing, Makeup etc - these are often the most unpredictable awards each year and therefore the most riveting categories to watch. But really, what the Academy need to work on (if they want more viewership) is making their winners far less predictable. As I have said before, the Golden Globes are always more exciting to watch since at that stage in the Awards Season it is unclear who the favourites are. By the time the Oscar ceremony comes around, every man and his dog knows who is going to win the four acting awards, Best Director and at least one of the screenplay awards every year. This needs to be spiced up, but I don't know how. Certainly, presenting awards during adbreaks and making an audience award is not going to help. Maybe the Academy could tighten their budget by not giving away motorskis with Helen Mirren.
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Post by albajos » August 9th, 2018, 1:59 pm

well, they cut best director from the norwegian awards because of time. Minor award indeed

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Post by xianjiro » August 9th, 2018, 3:15 pm

here's an idea to boost viewership: add some porn categories (you know, like we'll be adding a porn list to officialdom) and then have some A-list stars act out the scenes on stage like they do musical numbers. Surely a winning strategy that would appeal to the masses. And they won't even have to stretch that far for the 'porn' - fifty shades and all.

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Post by Good_Will_Harding » August 10th, 2018, 2:16 am

So before we get any Oscar categories honoring stunt coordinators, casting directors, motion capture performances, voice actors, debut features, etc, we get this completely meaningless People's Choice Award wannabe? Sure, fine.

In all seriousness, it actually doesn't sound like the absolute worst idea in the world - so long as some mid to low budget genre fare are recognized, like A Quiet Place, Hereditary, etc. But I still have a bad feeling that all five slots will be filled up by the latest Disney/Marvel/Star Wars outings and this category lines up 5 for 5 with the top highest grossing films of the year... -_-

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Post by morrison-dylan-fan » August 10th, 2018, 2:30 am

xianjiro wrote:
August 9th, 2018, 3:15 pm
here's an idea to boost viewership: add some porn categories
Best casting coach performance!

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Post by xianjiro » August 10th, 2018, 4:29 am

morrison-dylan-fan wrote:
August 10th, 2018, 2:30 am
xianjiro wrote:
August 9th, 2018, 3:15 pm
here's an idea to boost viewership: add some porn categories
Best casting coach performance!
:thumbsup: that's the idea!

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Post by brokenface » August 10th, 2018, 12:55 pm

Good_Will_Harding wrote:
August 10th, 2018, 2:16 am
In all seriousness, it actually doesn't sound like the absolute worst idea in the world - so long as some mid to low budget genre fare are recognized, like A Quiet Place, Hereditary, etc. But I still have a bad feeling that all five slots will be filled up by the latest Disney/Marvel/Star Wars outings and this category lines up 5 for 5 with the top highest grossing films of the year... -_-
Indiewire had an article imagining what would have won this over the past few years. I do wonder if they'd go with surprise hits (things like Fury Road or Get Out) or stick with the tentpoles. Say for 2017, they could have done a pure studio hit shortlist:

Last Jedi, Beauty & the Beast, Wonder Woman, Jumanji, Guardians/Thor/Spiderman

or they could have had more critically acclaimed mid level blockbusters that were in and around the Best Picture nomination, e.g.:

Get Out, Logan, Dunkirk, Baby Driver, Blade Runner 2049

Probably something like three from list 1, two from list 2 (assuming it is 5 nominees)

And I wonder if they'll include animated or leave them in their own category, 'cause Pixar would have 1 slot wrapped up most years

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Post by albajos » August 10th, 2018, 1:08 pm

Animated film is already the most popular one. The best one, aka non-Disney or non-USA or even non-kidfriendly never wins

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Post by Lakigigar » August 10th, 2018, 1:38 pm

It's an award invented to give Black Panther one.

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Post by albajos » August 10th, 2018, 1:51 pm

Lakigigar wrote:
August 10th, 2018, 1:38 pm
It's an award invented to give Black Panther one.
every year?

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Post by Lakigigar » August 10th, 2018, 1:55 pm

albajos wrote:
August 10th, 2018, 1:51 pm
Lakigigar wrote:
August 10th, 2018, 1:38 pm
It's an award invented to give Black Panther one.
every year?
Do you think they would've announced this award if Black Panther simply wouldn't exist?


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Post by OldAle1 » August 12th, 2018, 5:46 pm

Late to this discussion but I've been mostly offline for a week. I think it's a GREAT idea personally, because it might get me to finally stop watching and paying attention to this shit, and start thinking more about and paying more attention to what really does matter to me in film. And I could use that 3-4 hour slot that I used to waste doing something a little more productive like watching half of a Lav Diaz film.

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Post by xianjiro » August 12th, 2018, 7:49 pm

I find it a bit hard to believe anyone still watches awards shows, including the Oscars.

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Post by maxwelldeux » August 12th, 2018, 8:39 pm

xianjiro wrote:
August 12th, 2018, 7:49 pm
I find it a bit hard to believe anyone still watches awards shows, including the Oscars.
They're way more enjoyable when you can record them and fast-forward through the boring parts.

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Post by OldAle1 » August 12th, 2018, 8:49 pm

Or play drinking games while watching them live and kibbitzing with others, either in a party atmosphere or online.

I don't think even I could watch them sober and alone anymore though, and I've been watching them for 40 years.

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Post by RedHawk10 » August 13th, 2018, 4:08 pm

xianjiro wrote:
August 12th, 2018, 7:49 pm
I find it a bit hard to believe anyone still watches awards shows, including the Oscars.
I've kept up with the Oscars the last 5ish years and I make fun of them as much as anyone. Hey, it's something to do and I'll always find lists/ranking movies entertaining to some extent.

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Post by Timec » September 7th, 2018, 3:21 pm

The Academy changed its mind, and decided it won’t be awarding a Popular Film Oscar this year. Though apparently the idea is still on the table for the future. 😆

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Post by albajos » September 7th, 2018, 3:26 pm

Probably because of definition. What is popular? 200 Million BO? There aren't really many of them anymore.

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Post by Good_Will_Harding » September 7th, 2018, 4:54 pm

That's all well and good, but the idea of banishing some of the categories to commercial breaks (where the live broadcast won't be able to see them) is still being floated around, which is even more of a risible decision in my book. And we all know it's just going to be some of the not-so-easy-to-predict tech awards (both sounds, makeup, shorts, documentary, original score, etc.) that get the boot, because who cares about the individual craft departments which really make the films what they are? Keep in mind, they could just cut the musical performances and the lame skits where the interact with the "normies" instead, but why make actually sensible decisions at this point?

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Post by OldAle1 » September 7th, 2018, 7:19 pm

Or cut some of the commercials - if the broadcast is longer today than it was 30 years ago, it's not because of more content - I remember MUCH longer musical numbers and opening skits in the old days - when there were only 12-15 minutes of commercials per hour rather than the 19-21 we have now. But THAT of course has the least chance of happening and in fact it's still going in the opposite direction.

Why don't they just give up and accept that the demographic that watches the Oscars just isn't the same demographic that thinks Avengers: Let's Just Fucking Fight For 2 1/2 Hours is the GOAT? And nothing they can do to the broadcast will change that - we already have the People's Choice, MTV, etc type awards for that stuff. Most Popular = Best isn't something the people who actually like watching the Oscars - and want to watch all the Oscar nominees - are ever going to agree with.

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Post by RedHawk10 » September 7th, 2018, 10:48 pm

Lol, the Academy makes a fool out of themselves once again. Glad the popular film thing is gone, but at the same it probably would've been entertaining to see just how much of a shitshow it would've ended up being.

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Post by outdoorcats » September 7th, 2018, 11:00 pm

It would have been degrading for a film like Black Panther to have to compete for that category when it has a decent shot at an actual Best Picture nom, which it deserves IMO.

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Post by vendetta » September 8th, 2018, 5:53 am

popoular film is not a good idea for academy awards IMO.......i think it will ruin the justification of other awards...in certain aspects..

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Post by morrison-dylan-fan » September 9th, 2018, 5:31 pm

The Academy should just make everyone happy by binning Popular,and instead get down wit' the kidz with a Most "Woke" film of the year award.

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Post by max-scl » October 8th, 2018, 7:05 pm

The final list of Foreign Language film submissions, 87 countries submitted a film:

Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... guage_Film

Imdb: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls022215719/

ICM: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/subm ... m/max-scl/ (need to add three more)

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Post by albajos » October 8th, 2018, 7:07 pm

6 of them already official :)

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Post by max-scl » October 8th, 2018, 7:33 pm

Yep, the national award winners of India, Netherlands and Norway, the Cannes and Venice competition winners, and a Chinese Box office hit.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » October 11th, 2018, 12:29 am

Should Roma be considered the early favorite at this point?

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Post by outdoorcats » October 11th, 2018, 1:11 am

For Foreign Language Film? Maybe, but the Oscars do tend to be their most unpredictable in that category and often go for the less obvious choice. It's such a critical success it will likely get some other nominations though, subtitles or not (maybe even a Best Picture nomination hopefully).

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Post by max-scl » October 11th, 2018, 5:13 am

Right now yes, it's between Roma and Cold War (By Pawel P. who won for Ida a few years ago), and Capharnaum it's supposed to be more Academy taste (a melodrama with kids).

This list will become a shortlist of 9 movies, 6 of those movies are chosen by a large comitee, and 3 are chosen by a smaller comitee that should "protect" some high profile arthouse films.

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Post by spinal tapper » October 11th, 2018, 9:00 am

On one site that I visited, Roma was listed as the fave to winner to Best Picture - which would make it the first foreign language film to achieve that?

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