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ICM Forum's Favorite Directors 2013 Edition RESULTS

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Thank you everyone for voting.
Previous editions: 2011 2012

1. Stanley Kubrick 504.6 Pts (47Votes)
2. Alfred Hitchcock 479.6 Pts (47Votes)
3. Akira Kurosawa 455.6 Pts (43Votes)
4. Ingmar Bergman 421.6 Pts (42Votes)
5. Andrei Tarkovsky 366 Pts (37Votes)
6. Fritz Lang 362.6 Pts (41Votes)
7. Billy Wilder 356.6 Pts (40Votes)
8. David Lynch 342.6 Pts (43Votes)
9. Martin Scorsese 341.6 Pts (39Votes)
10. Luis Buñuel 316 Pts (37Votes)
11. Ethan Coen 301.6 Pts (34Votes)
12. Orson Welles 293 Pts (39Votes)
13. Jean-Luc Godard 287.1 Pts (34Votes)
14. Woody Allen 277.6 Pts (34Votes)
15. Quentin Tarantino 270.1 Pts (33Votes)
16. Yasujirō Ozu 266 Pts (34Votes)
17. Krzysztof Kieslowski 260 Pts (30Votes)
18. Werner Herzog 259 Pts (36Votes)
19. Buster Keaton 253.6 Pts (34Votes)
20. F.W. Murnau 247.6 Pts (35Votes)
21. Hayao Miyazaki 241 Pts (29Votes)
22. Masaki Kobayashi 233 Pts (27Votes)
23. Charles Chaplin 232.6 Pts (32Votes)
24. Howard Hawks 230.6 Pts (32Votes)
25. Roman Polanski 229.1 Pts (31Votes)
26. Sergio Leone 226.1 Pts (30Votes)
27. Robert Bresson 221 Pts (29Votes)
28. Sidney Lumet 217.5 Pts (32Votes)
29. Federico Fellini 216.6 Pts (27Votes)
30. Michelangelo Antonioni 215 Pts (26Votes)
31. John Ford 207.5 Pts (27Votes)
32. Jean Renoir 206 Pts (31Votes)
33. David Cronenberg 203.6 Pts (29Votes)
34. Rainer Werner Fassbinder 202 Pts (30Votes)
35. Kenji Mizoguchi 194.6 Pts (24Votes)
36. Steven Spielberg 192.1 Pts (25Votes)
37. Frank Capra 189.6 Pts (29Votes)
38. Ernst Lubitsch 187 Pts (26Votes)
39. Jean-Pierre Melville 186 Pts (28Votes)
40. Terrence Malick 186 Pts (27Votes)
41. David Lean 182.6 Pts (29Votes)
42. Francis Ford Coppola 180.6 Pts (27Votes)
43. Kar Wai Wong 178.6 Pts (23Votes)
44. Eric Rohmer 177 Pts (21Votes)
45. David Fincher 175.1 Pts (26Votes)
46. Satyajit Ray 174 Pts (23Votes)
47. François Truffaut 169 Pts (25Votes)
48. Alain Resnais 167 Pts (22Votes)
49. Robert Altman 166.5 Pts (26Votes)
50. Lars von Trier 165 Pts (21Votes)
51. Paul Thomas Anderson 163 Pts (22Votes)
52. Michael Powell 159.5 Pts (25Votes)
53. Abbas Kiarostami 152 Pts (21Votes)
54. Carl Theodor Dreyer 149.5 Pts (23Votes)
55. John Carpenter 148.1 Pts (21Votes)
56. Wes Anderson 143 Pts (21Votes)
57. Elia Kazan 141 Pts (22Votes)
58. John Cassavetes 140 Pts (20Votes)
59. Michael Haneke 136.6 Pts (19Votes)
60. Luchino Visconti 134.5 Pts (20Votes)
61. Pedro Almodóvar 130.1 Pts (20Votes)
62. Mikhail Kalatozov 130 Pts (19Votes)
63. Sergei M. Eisenstein 129 Pts (20Votes)
64. John Huston 122.5 Pts (22Votes)
65. Henri-Georges Clouzot 121.6 Pts (18Votes)
66. Max Ophüls 120.5 Pts (18Votes)
67. Christopher Nolan 119 Pts (18Votes)
68. Nicholas Ray 115.5 Pts (20Votes)
69. William Wyler 108.5 Pts (18Votes)
70. Jim Jarmusch 108.5 Pts (21Votes)
71. Béla Tarr 108 Pts (13Votes)
72. Vittorio De Sica 107.5 Pts (17Votes)
73. Preston Sturges 104.5 Pts (19Votes)
74. Wim Wenders 104 Pts (21Votes)
75. Ridley Scott 102.5 Pts (17Votes)
76. Louis Malle 102 Pts (19Votes)
77. Jacques Tati 102 Pts (17Votes)
78. Terry Gilliam 101.1 Pts (15Votes)
79. Mike Leigh 100 Pts (14Votes)
80. Sam Peckinpah 99.5 Pts (19Votes)
81. Aki Kaurismäki 98 Pts (15Votes)
82. Clint Eastwood 97 Pts (16Votes)
83. Marcel Carné 94 Pts (13Votes)
84. Tim Burton 89.6 Pts (16Votes)
85. Brian De Palma 89.1 Pts (16Votes)
86. Roberto Rossellini 89 Pts (15Votes)
87. Peter Jackson 88.6 Pts (12Votes)
88. Milos Forman 88.1 Pts (17Votes)
89. Darren Aronofsky 88.1 Pts (14Votes)
90. Chan-wook Park 87.5 Pts (14Votes)
91. Yimou Zhang 81 Pts (12Votes)
92. Anthony Mann 80 Pts (15Votes)
93. Carol Reed 79.5 Pts (14Votes)
94. Agnès Varda 78.5 Pts (14Votes)
95. Josef von Sternberg 78.5 Pts (15Votes)
96. Frederick Wiseman 77 Pts (8Votes)
97. Aleksandr Sokurov 77 Pts (11Votes)
98. Claire Denis 76 Pts (14Votes)
99. Pier Paolo Pasolini 75.5 Pts (12Votes)
100. Chris Marker 73 Pts (9Votes)
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#2

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Google Spreadsheet of full list.

Runners up:
#101 (N/A) Peter Weir (ICM) Points: 71 (15 Votes)
#102(91) Stan Brakhage (ICM) Points: 70 (9 Votes)
#103(N/A) Richard Linklater (ICM) Points: 69.5 (13 Votes)
#104(88) Raoul Walsh (ICM) Points: 69 (14 Votes)
#105(N/A) James Cameron (ICM) Points: 68.5 (11 Votes)

Dropoffs from last year's list
#102(91) Stan Brakhage (ICM) Points: 70 (9 Votes)
#104(88) Raoul Walsh (ICM) Points: 69 (14 Votes)
#108(83) Michael Curtiz (ICM) Points: 66.5 (14 Votes)
#113(95) Dario Argento (ICM) Points: 63 (9 Votes)
#119(93) Joseph L. Mankiewicz (ICM) Points: 58.5 (13 Votes)
#120(98) Otto Preminger (ICM) Points: 58.5 (14 Votes)
#122(N/A) Jean-Pierre Dardenne (ICM) Points: 58 (10 Votes)
#125(76) Jacques Tourneur (ICM) Points: 56 (11 Votes)
#126(79) Samuel Fuller (ICM) Points: 54.5 (14 Votes)
#134(96) Hiroshi Teshigahara (ICM) Points: 49 (9 Votes)
#137(94) Claude Chabrol (ICM) Points: 46.5 (10 Votes)

#1s not on the list:
#102(91) Stan Brakhage (ICM) Points: 70 (9 Votes)
#148(N/A) Edward Yang (ICM) Points: 42 (7 Votes)
#173(N/A) Mario Bava (ICM) Points: 33 (4 Votes)
#200(N/A) Johnnie To (ICM) Points: 25 (3 Votes)
#228(N/A) Jacques Audiard (ICM) Points: 23 (2 Votes)
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Top Female directors:
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#168(N/A) Chantal AkermanPoints: 33 (5 Votes)
#185(N/A) Danièle Huillet Points: 29 (4 Votes)
#198(N/A) Sofia Coppola Points: 26 (5 Votes)
#259(N/A) Kathryn Bigelow Points: 19 (3 Votes)
#259(N/A) Kathryn Bigelow Points: 19 (3 Votes)
#259(N/A) Kathryn Bigelow Points: 19 (3 Votes)

Directors in multiple top 10s not in Top 100
3 Top 10 votes:
102. Stan Brakhage 70 Pts (9Votes)
111. Hsiao-hsien Hou 65 Pts (9Votes)

2 Top 10 votes:
106. Mikio Naruse 68.5 Pts (14Votes)
109. Steven Soderbergh 66.5 Pts (12Votes)
110. Andrzej Wajda 65.5 Pts (11Votes)
143. Guy Maddin 44 Pts (7Votes)
144. George A. Romero 43.5 Pts (8Votes)
150. Hollis Frampton 40 Pts (4Votes)

Directors with at least 14 votes not in Top 100:
15 votes:
101. Peter Weir 71 Pts (15Votes)

14 votes:
104. Raoul Walsh 69 Pts (14Votes)
106. Mikio Naruse 68.5 Pts (14Votes)
108. Michael Curtiz 66.5 Pts (14Votes)
120. Otto Preminger 58.5 Pts (14Votes)
126. Samuel Fuller 54.5 Pts (14Votes)

Directors with more than one #1 vote:
5 #1s
1. Stanley Kubrick 504.6 Pts (47Votes)
2. Alfred Hitchcock 479.6 Pts (47Votes)

3 #1s
5. Andrei Tarkovsky 366 Pts (37Votes)
13. Jean-Luc Godard 287.1 Pts (34Votes)

2 #1s
3. Akira Kurosawa 455.6 Pts (43Votes)
4. Ingmar Bergman 421.6 Pts (42Votes)
10. Luis Buñuel 316 Pts (37Votes)
11. Ethan Coen 301.6 Pts (34Votes)
15. Quentin Tarantino 270.1 Pts (33Votes)
22. Masaki Kobayashi 233 Pts (27Votes)
31. John Ford 207.5 Pts (27Votes)
44. Eric Rohmer 177 Pts (21Votes)
46. Satyajit Ray 174 Pts (23Votes)
50. Lars von Trier 165 Pts (21Votes)

At least 10 Top10 votes
27
1. Stanley Kubrick 504.6 Pts (47Votes)
22
2. Alfred Hitchcock 479.6 Pts (47Votes)
3. Akira Kurosawa 455.6 Pts (43Votes)
4. Ingmar Bergman 421.6 Pts (42Votes)
17
5. Andrei Tarkovsky 366 Pts (37Votes)
14
7. Billy Wilder 356.6 Pts (40Votes)
11
9. Martin Scorsese 341.6 Pts (39Votes)
10
13. Jean-Luc Godard 287.1 Pts (34Votes)
10. Luis Buñuel 316 Pts (37Votes)
11. Ethan Coen 301.6 Pts (34Votes)
17. Krzysztof Kieslowski 260 Pts (30Votes)

Biggest Decrease:
73. Preston Sturges 104.5 Pts (Down 23)
43. Kar Wai Wong 178.6 Pts (Down 21)
65. Henri-Georges Clouzot 121.6 Pts (Down 21)
35. Kenji Mizoguchi 194.6 Pts (Down 18)
79. Mike Leigh 100 Pts (Down 18)

Biggest Increase:
20. F.W. Murnau 247.6 Pts (Up 15)
27. Robert Bresson 221 Pts (Up 15)
75. Ridley Scott 102.5 Pts (Up 15)
29. Federico Fellini 216.6 Pts (Up 16)
50. Lars von Trier 165 Pts (Up 20)
40. Terrence Malick 186 Pts (Up 22)
62. Mikhail Kalatozov 130 Pts (Up 25)
71. Béla Tarr 108 Pts (Up 26)
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I won't start the list proper for some hours, but to kick things off we'll look at the directors who were number one on someone's list but didn't make it.

There were 32 different directors getting a number one vote, from 53 ranked lists, 5 of them didn't make it.

Let's start with the three who weren't very close

#228(N/A) Jacques Audiard (ICM) Points: 23 (2 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: 1–1–1
TSPDT Rank: N/A
Key Film: Un prophète (2009)
List of Voters:
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#200(N/A) Johnnie To (ICM) Points: 25 (3 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: 1–1–1
TSPDT Rank: N/A
Key Film: Cheung fo (1999)
List of Voters:
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#173(N/A) Mario Bava (ICM) Points: 33 (4 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: 1–1–1
TSPDT Rank: N/A
Key Film: Cani arrabbiati (1974)
List of Voters:
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2012 Edition ?
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#148(N/A) Edward Yang (ICM) Points: 42 (7 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: 1–1–1
TSPDT Rank: 81
Key Film: Yi yi (2000)
List of Voters:
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#102(91) Stan Brakhage (ICM) Points: 70 (9 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: 1–1–3
TSPDT Rank: 117
Key Film: The Act of Seeing with One's Own Eyes (1971)
List of Voters:
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insomnia (29)
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Dolwphin (34)
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My rankings:

Jacques Audiard - 141
Johnnie To - 113
Mario Bava - 425
Edward Yang - 174
Stan Brakhage - haven't seen any of his films
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Damn, I voted for 3 of those guys, surprised they didn't make it.
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OK let's look at a few more runners up before we get to the main show.

#105(N/A) James Cameron (ICM) Points: 68.5 (11 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: 0–0–0
TSPDT Rank: 111
Key Film: Aliens (1986)
List of Voters:
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kisbye (41)
Samlion (45)
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Can we have the runner up's 2012 ranking also?
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tommy_leazaq on Dec 25 2013, 10:55:10 AM wrote:Can we have the runner up's 2012 ranking also?
Brakhage was 91, Cameron wasn't on the list, neither were any of the others posted above.
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How do you choose the key film?
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toro913 on Dec 25 2013, 08:17:16 AM wrote:Stan Brakhage - haven't seen any of his films
You don't watch shorts? None at all?? :satstunned:
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Very few and I don't check or keep track of the ones I do
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Edward Yang was #98 for me.
Jacques Audiard just went on my list for next year (anyone else want to join the Jacques Audiard mafia?).
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frbrown on Dec 25 2013, 11:26:20 AM wrote:How do you choose the key film?
The one on the most official lists on ICM. Generally it works out, although there are a few head scratchers.
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#104(88) Raoul Walsh (ICM) Points: 69 (14 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: 0–0–0
TSPDT Rank: 132
Key Film: White Heat (1949)
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allisoncm on Dec 25 2013, 01:53:14 PM wrote:Edward Yang was #98 for me.
Jacques Audiard just went on my list for next year (anyone else want to join the Jacques Audiard mafia?).
I like him a lot, but wasn't too impressed with his last film. Love Un prophète and De battre. If he makes a couple more films I love, he might break the top 100
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Raoul didn't make it :(
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Kasparius on Dec 25 2013, 02:39:01 PM wrote:
allisoncm on Dec 25 2013, 01:53:14 PM wrote:Edward Yang was #98 for me.
Jacques Audiard just went on my list for next year (anyone else want to join the Jacques Audiard mafia?).
I like him a lot, but wasn't too impressed with his last film. Love Un prophète and De battre. If he makes a couple more films I love, he might break the top 100
I liked Rust & Bone and saw it twice. I understand how it's not everyone's favorite, but whatever.
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allisoncm on Dec 25 2013, 02:41:47 PM wrote:
Kasparius on Dec 25 2013, 02:39:01 PM wrote:
allisoncm on Dec 25 2013, 01:53:14 PM wrote:Edward Yang was #98 for me.
Jacques Audiard just went on my list for next year (anyone else want to join the Jacques Audiard mafia?).
I like him a lot, but wasn't too impressed with his last film. Love Un prophète and De battre. If he makes a couple more films I love, he might break the top 100
I liked Rust & Bone and saw it twice. I understand how it's not everyone's favorite, but whatever.
The Beat That My Heart Skipped is my personal favourite. I'll back you up on the mafia front!
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Un prophète and De battre are the only two I've seen but both were very good. I'd consider him if I see a great film from him.
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I liked Un prophète, thought The Beat That My Heart Skipped and Venus Beauty Institute were meh.
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I like his movies from the last decade. Never did see Rust & Bone.
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mightysparks on Dec 25 2013, 03:03:47 PM wrote:Venus Beauty Institute
He only wrote that, not directed, so I'll give him a pass for it being mediocre.
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PeacefulAnarchy on Dec 25 2013, 03:09:15 PM wrote:
mightysparks on Dec 25 2013, 03:03:47 PM wrote:Venus Beauty Institute
He only wrote that, not directed, so I'll give him a pass for it being mediocre.
Woops, just looked at the first set of films on his IMDb page :P Didn't realise it was writing credit.
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mightysparks on Dec 25 2013, 03:03:47 PM wrote:I liked Un prophète, thought The Beat That My Heart Skipped and Venus Beauty Institute were meh.
He didn't direct Venus beaute!! That film is a piece of shit!
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#103(N/A) Richard Linklater (ICM) Points: 69.5 (13 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: 0–0–0
TSPDT Rank: 215
Key Film: Before Sunset (2004)
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allisoncm on Dec 25 2013, 01:53:14 PM wrote:Edward Yang was #98 for me.
Jacques Audiard just went on my list for next year (anyone else want to join the Jacques Audiard mafia?).
Off course i am in
Almost all his movies are my favorites
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Forgot about Linklater in my list, could have made an entry later on. Love the before series and waking life, but not hugely appreciative of the rest.
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I love the Before series, but don't think I liked anything else I've seen. Just tried to choose directors based on what I liked for now though. Once I've seen more, I can get stricter :P
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Love Linklater.

Before trilogy, Slacker, Dazed and Confused. That's a pretty great resume.
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Already posted Brakhage, so here's the last guy who came close but didn't make it:

#101 (N/A) Peter Weir (ICM) Points: 71 (15 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: 0–1–1
TSPDT Rank: 122
Key Film: Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975)
List of Voters:
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Yang and Audiard might make my list when I've seen more. haven't seen any Audiard pre-Beat That My Heart Skipped.

for Yang, I've seen Yi-yi, Brighter & Terrorizers. was a big fan of the latter, after not being bowled over by the others. Taipei Story seems to be next one to seek, but am I right in thinking there's only LQ copies?
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brokenface on Dec 25 2013, 06:48:43 PM wrote:Yang and Audiard might make my list when I've seen more. haven't seen any Audiard pre-Beat That My Heart Skipped.

for Yang, I've seen Yi-yi, Brighter & Terrorizers. was a big fan of the latter, after not being bowled over by the others. Taipei Story seems to be next one to seek, but am I right in thinking there's only LQ copies?
Yeah Taipei has a horrendous copy. Very good film though. Mahjong should be avoided at all cost. It's shockingly bad.
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One last thing before the list proper.

Since I have the full spreadsheet from last year as well as this year combined, I was able to see some ridiculously large jumps into the top 200. Perhaps directors people have seen more of in the past year? They might be getting into the list next year if that's the case.
These are directors who jumped over 200 places and into the top 200.

#114(up 325 from 439) Alfonso Cuarón Points: 63 (11 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: ––1
TSPDT Rank: N/A
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#141(up 255 from 396) Robert Wise Points: 44 (12 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: 0–0–0
TSPDT Rank: 152
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#170(up 222 from 392) Oliver Stone Points: 33 (9 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: 0–0–0
TSPDT Rank: 185
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#182(up 212 from 394) James Whale Points: 29.6 (7 Votes)
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#161(up 204 from 365 Ousmane Sembene Points: 36 (5 Votes)
Top 1–5–10: 0–0–0
TSPDT Rank: 139
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I admit my primary motivation for posting that is hoping some people add Sembene to their list. The other directors I don't really care about.

I guess Cuaron is due to Gravity?
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Disliked Xala so much that I may never watch another Sembene film. Well, maybe Black Girl.
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sebby on Dec 25 2013, 07:52:41 PM wrote:Disliked Xala so much that I may never watch another Sembene film. Well, maybe Black Girl.
You should watch that and more importantly, Camp de Thiaroye
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