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flavo5000 wrote: August 28th, 2020, 6:21 pm Series like Serial Experiments Lain, Erased, Paranoia Agent, Baccano, etc. are all stand-alone short series that tell a complete story and are in fact significantly shorter than many "mini-series" like Heimat, Berlin Alexanderplatz, Hitler: Film from Germany, The World at War and others that have never gotten any kind of derision from any of these challenges.
I know, but then I personally wouldn't allow mini-series either. The problem with these discussions is that's a constant game of moving the goalposts. Because someone knows a handful of films that are segmented or films that were aired as a mini-series on TV, mini-series get allowed. Then someone knows a couple of mini-series that are longer than some regular TV series, which then get allowed. Then someone doesn't see the difference between that an 14 seasons of Naruto etc etc. If you get wrapped up in these type of discussions, everything that's recorded should basically be allowed, which is simply not what most of the people here came to discuss.

As much as I love Lain, the experience is extremely episodic and it has nothing to do with film.
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AdamH wrote: August 28th, 2020, 3:35 pm Not sure if anyone else can relate to this but, as someone with no interest in the competitive element, I get really put off by having to post a numbered list of films with spoiler tags with all previous watches in every single post I make.
I actually quite like this, as long as it includes some kind of quality assessment, as I can quickly see what people liked.

I understand your point though.

Personally I don't care about the competitive nature, and think I would personally enjoy it more if it was say "Silent Movie Month/Silent Movie Focus" where people shared their lists, their watches and exchanged observations, views, etc. But I do see this happen more and more in the challenges as is, and that's great. Moving it to something I'd enjoy more would on the other hand quite possibly alienate people who don't feel like they have a lot to say and feel more comfortable posting titles and use the challenge in a more personal way.

Also: as this is an ICM forum some people will care about rank! B) And that's perfectly fine. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and if the competition pushes some people to explore harder, fantastic.

P. S. And yeah, seems Cinephage and Sol were speaking past each other a little here.

P. P. S. I don't mind whatever the change/non-change is - though very few people watch shorts for the challenges and as the forums resident non-short watcher (we'll, almost never) I do think the 60m rules helps as an incentive to seek out shorts, especially as shorter features are counted down to 40. I also almost never see people binge shows, though they are a massive part of anime and it would likely be the one time I'd consider it as well.

If this is still contested, we could do a poll to decide it.
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Traveller wrote: August 28th, 2020, 6:02 pm Hey sol, I can host the silent era challenge to relieve you of some of the hosting duties since that's the one I'll be participating in. If that's okay with you, I'll start the thread in the next two days. No idea if I'll have time for stats or some fancy stuff, though.
Lovely, thank you for stepping up. I'll definitely join in. Have a few German Silents lined up too. ;)
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mightysparks wrote: August 28th, 2020, 1:44 pm I'm not participating but I think updating the shorts/TV rules to 90 minutes in general is a nice idea. I like being able to include shorts and TV in challenges (even though I don't really do it), but 60 mins does seem a bit generous now.
Or we could really change things next year and settle this once and for all by going to minutes watched instead of number of films watched.
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peeptoad wrote: August 28th, 2020, 12:47 pm
sol wrote: August 28th, 2020, 12:40 pm
peeptoad wrote: August 28th, 2020, 12:14 pm

I agree with this.
Sure. We can do this. Last time that I brought the issue to the table though, the general consensus was "let the host do whatever (s)he wants". :shrug:
Eh, it could probably work either way. "let the host do whatever (s)he wants" seems great, but I get the feeling that some people get irritated when someone wants to make a change in a given month. Or maybe I just irritate people. That sounds more likely actually.
I don't think it was you, peeps. I was looking forward to an animation challenge hosted by you because i knew you would add some extra fun - even though I prefer 60-90 minutes of TV/shorts equaling one point. I think this is just one of those hot spot issues here and it would be great to see it get ironed out on a year by year basis. I know when i was competing for the grand poohbah of the year award the thing that annoyed me most was hosts making changes to challenge rules a few days before the challenge was posted because i tend to plan my viewings weeks and even months in advance of the host stepping up to the plate. :cheers:
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Another option: How do people feel about just using the 40/60 rule for TV for simplicity's sake w/ the caveat that no more than 50% of total watches in a given challenge come from TV viewing?
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frbrown wrote: August 28th, 2020, 2:19 pm I'll start the Animation Challenge thread this weekend - with 40/60 rules for everything.
Thanks frbrown! I don't know what I'm going to take part in next month, but I'll hope to stop by.

Nice discussion. I liked what cinephage said about enjoyment and watching what one wants to. That fun element is what makes me come back, haahaa.

And, I noticed and agreed with something that Adam said in passing about posts without reaction or rating. That is something that tends to leave me a little inquisitive as well, particularly in cases where I liked or disliked a film. It's nice to get a sense of someone's position on a film watched for one of these challenges!

I wish I was a better writer when it comes to films and my thoughts on them. This month in particular I've been feeling rather uninspired!
That's all, folks!
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Traveller wrote: August 28th, 2020, 6:02 pm Hey sol, I can host the silent era challenge to relieve you of some of the hosting duties since that's the one I'll be participating in. If that's okay with you, I'll start the thread in the next two days. No idea if I'll have time for stats or some fancy stuff, though.
Thank you. :thumbsup:

Looks like I'm doing Russia/USSR then? Well, as long as nobody is expecting pie charts or eligibility checks, I guess that's okay. As mentioned upthread, next month is going to be very busy for me. Still happy if somebody else wants to volunteer.

And just to confirm (if anybody is confused), films from ex-Soviet states are ineligible - there are separate Eastern European and Central Asia Challenges next year in which those countries' productions post-1991 will be eligible.
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I can host the Russian/CCCP challenge if you want sol (big surprise I know ;) ).
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clemmetarey wrote: August 29th, 2020, 9:51 am I can host the Russian/CCCP challenge if you want sol (big surprise I know ;) ).
Go for it. Just remember to include the Metamorphosis image. B) If you want. :unsure:

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Sure, but I probably won't resist adding images of my own :P
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sol wrote: August 28th, 2020, 12:54 pm
peeptoad wrote: August 28th, 2020, 12:47 pmOr maybe I just irritate people. That sounds more likely actually.
No, you don't. :( I think you have been very diplomatic over the last two pages of this thread. But it is a hard balancing act since there are no set rules. I think this has to change. Letting the hosts just do what they want clearly isn't what the vast majority of us actually want.
psychotronicbeatnik wrote: August 29th, 2020, 12:11 am I don't think it was you, peeps.
Yeah, it probably wasn't... still feels that way at times in life.
I agree with the no set rules things you said, sol. I volunteer to host so rarely that for me personally it would be far easier to host if there was some kind of standard operating procedures that could be applied to any given month. That's likely my job talking though, as we use S.O.P.s constantly and it would get mighty confusing (not to mention hazardous) if we didn't have them. They do get reviewed and updated periodically however, so these applicable conversations are valuable.

I also agree with those leaning on the non-competitive side of the challenges. I never enter the challenge intending to try to win; I just can't watch that many movies in a month. I just use them to filter my existing watch list to get a monthly focal point.
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psychotronicbeatnik wrote: August 28th, 2020, 11:58 pm
mightysparks wrote: August 28th, 2020, 1:44 pm I'm not participating but I think updating the shorts/TV rules to 90 minutes in general is a nice idea. I like being able to include shorts and TV in challenges (even though I don't really do it), but 60 mins does seem a bit generous now.
Or we could really change things next year and settle this once and for all by going to minutes watched instead of number of films watched.

I think this could be an interesting change.
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I know this is a little early, but I want to think ahead so I have time to set things up... What bonus challenges do y'all want for the Horror Challenge next month (yes, I'm planning to host it barring someone jumping in SUPER eager)? Currently, I'm thinking...

#BINGO: Did this last year, basically it's horror subgenres for columns (e.g., zombies, slashers) and horror cliches (e.g., the villain won't die) for rows. I'm open to suggestions for both subgenres and cliches on this.

Kill the Zombies: Basically a passive group challenge where we see how many of the TSZDT list we can knock out.

Other thoughts? Other ideas? Hate those ideas? Bueller?
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"Collect the Countries", Collect the Years (or Decades)
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The bingo was fun, would be cool to have it again. I like the Kill the Zombies idea except I've already killed all the zombies :folded: DVDTalk does a checklist every year (some of it stays the same, but the actors/directors etc change), eg last year's:
Spoiler
Select 10 actors:
--- Abigail Breslin -
--- Clancy Brown -
--- Peter Cushing -
--- John Carradine -
--- Charles Durning -
--- Sid Haig -
--- Doug Jones -
--- Boris Karloff -
--- Klaus Kinski -
--- Christopher Lee -
--- Bela Lugosi -
--- Richard Lynch -
--- Michael Moriarty -
--- Bruce Payne -
--- Ted Raimi -
--- Oliver Reed -
--- Eric Roberts -
--- Felissa Rose -
--- Dominique Swain -
--- Billy Zane -

Select 2 film composers:
--- Joseph Bishara -
--- Elisabeth Lutyens -
--- Lalo Schifrin -
--- Shirley Walker -

Select 5 directors:
--- James Bressack -
--- John Carpenter -
--- Terrence Fisher -
--- Adam Green -
--- Peter Jackson -
--- Franck Khalfoun -
--- Ryûhei Kitamura -
--- Deon Taylor -
--- Rob Zombie -
--- Watch a Movie Directed By a Female Director -

Select 2 makeup effects artists:
--- Al Magliochetti -
--- Mike Measimer -
--- Michelle Sfarzo -
--- Michael Spatola -

Select 2 producers:
--- Nate Bolotin -
--- Brad Fuller -
--- Enrique Lopez Lavigne -
--- Trevor Macy -

Select 2 writers:
--- Robert Bloch -
--- Jeff Buhler -
--- Jamie Nash -
--- Wesley Strick -

Select 30 of the following sub-genres / types:
--- *3-D Film -
--- Anthology Film -
--- Appears on
25 Weird Horror Movies -
--- Based on a True Story -
--- Based on a Novel -
--- Cannibalism -
--- Cinema Inspired By: Bram Stoker -
--- Cinematic Titanic / Horror Host / MST3K / RiffTrax -
--- Comedy / Spoof -
--- Criterion / Masters of Cinema Version Film -
--- Cryptid Cinema -
--- Death by: Silver Bullet -
--- Diary / Journal -
--- Director or Writer Cameo in Own Film / Film Adaptation, 2
--- Distributor / Studio: Mondo Macabro -
--- Documentary -
--- Drunk Horror -
--- Euro Horror -
--- Extraterrestrial / Takes Place in Space -
--- Film From Someone Else's 'Best of' List -
--- Film From TCM October 2019 Schedule -
--- Film Title Drop -
--- Flashback Horror -
--- Folk Horror -
--- From a Basil Gogos Painting -
--- Found Footage -
--- Frankenstein -
--- Ghost / Haunting -
--- Giallo -
--- Ouija Board -
--- Kaiju / Giant Monster -
--- K-Horror -
--- Killer / Evil Animal -
--- Killer / Evil Child -
--- Killer / Evil Doll -
--- Made-for-TV Movie -
--- Mummy -
--- Musical / Rock ‘n Roll Horror
--- Nation of Origin: Thailand -
--- Nazi -
--- Nepotism Dynasty -
--- OHMC 15th Anniversary Watch: 2005 -
--- One-Word Titles -
--- Prom -
--- Phobias -
--- Psychological -
--- Rape / Revenge -
--- Scarecrows -
--- Slasher / Psycho / Homicidal Maniac -
--- Shot in Bronson Canyon -
--- Takes Place in a Hospital -
--- Takes Place on a Farm -
--- Takes Place on a Holiday -
--- Television -
--- Three Installments in a Franchise -
--- Vampire -
--- Werewolf -
--- Witchcraft / Satanic / Religious -
--- Wilhelm Scream -
--- With Commentary -
--- With Two or More Horror Legends -
--- Zombie -

Watch films in at least three formats:
--- First format, (insert format), (insert title).
--- Second format, (insert format), (insert title).
--- Third format, (insert format), (insert title).

Watch films in at least three languages:
--- First language, (insert language), (insert title).
--- Second language, (insert language), (insert title).
--- Third language, (insert language), (insert title).

Watch 3 films that you've never seen before that:
--- Stars a Baldwin (Daniel, Stephen, William) -
--- Features time travel -
--- Was made in the 1970s -
--- Features a giant insect -
--- Was written by H.G. Wells -
--- Features a character who has a premonition -
--- Has a scene in a morgue -
--- Was shot in Alabama -
--- Is listed on the Film Registry of the National Film Preservation Board -
--- Takes place at a castle -
--- Features a vampire hunter -

Watch 1 film with a recently deceased personality:
--- Recently deceased list -

Watch 1 of your OHMC "favorites":
--- The Carrier (1988) -
--- Shakma (1990) -
--- The Killer Tongue (1996) -
--- The House by the Cemetery (1981) -
--- Death Bed: The Bed That Eats (1977) -
--- Burial Ground: The Nights of Terror (1981) -
--- Hobgoblins (1988) -
--- Microwave Massacre (1983) -
--- Killer Condom (1996) -

Select 6 decades of film history:
--- Pre-1930 -
--- 1930 -
--- 1940 -
--- 1950 -
--- 1960 -
--- 1970 -
--- 1980 -
--- 1990 -
--- 2000 -
--- 2010 -

Select 3 from the following horror film tropes:
--- The Feline Fright -
--- "Let's Split Up" -
--- The Mirror Scare -
--- The Suddenly Undependable Vehicle -
--- The Invincible Killer -
--- Dream Scares -
--- Mythology Exposition -

Select 1 from the "Chronological Horror Years Faceoff":
--- 1944 (75th) -
--- 1969 (50th) -
--- 1994 (25th) –

Select 1 from the following anniversaries:
--- 30th Anniversary of USA Up All Night -
--- 40th Anniversary of Fangoria Magazine -
--- 40th Anniversary of Svengoolie -
--- 45th Anniversary of Troma Entertainment-
--- 85th Anniversary of Hammer Films -
--- 100th Birthday of Donald Pleasence -


Select 4 ratings:
--- G -
--- PG -
--- PG-13 -
--- R -
--- NC-17 -
--- X -
--- Unrated -
--- M -
--- GP -


Attend a live event (convention, play, haunted house, ghost tour, etc.):
--- (insert event). OPTIONAL

Venture Into the Literary World:
--- Read a Horror Novel or Novella (insert title). OPTIONAL
--- Read a Horror Comic Book or Graphic Novel (insert title). OPTIONAL
--- Read a Horror Magazine (insert title). OPTIONAL
Could do something like that as well.
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blueboybob wrote: September 4th, 2020, 1:21 pm "Collect the Countries", Collect the Years (or Decades)
Years/Decades is easy. Countries would have to rely on self report, as I don't have the oomph in me to look up 2000+ films. Interesting thoughts.
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mightysparks wrote: September 4th, 2020, 1:37 pm The bingo was fun, would be cool to have it again. I like the Kill the Zombies idea except I've already killed all the zombies :folded: DVDTalk does a checklist every year (some of it stays the same, but the actors/directors etc change), eg last year's:
Spoiler
Select 10 actors:
--- Abigail Breslin -
--- Clancy Brown -
--- Peter Cushing -
--- John Carradine -
--- Charles Durning -
--- Sid Haig -
--- Doug Jones -
--- Boris Karloff -
--- Klaus Kinski -
--- Christopher Lee -
--- Bela Lugosi -
--- Richard Lynch -
--- Michael Moriarty -
--- Bruce Payne -
--- Ted Raimi -
--- Oliver Reed -
--- Eric Roberts -
--- Felissa Rose -
--- Dominique Swain -
--- Billy Zane -

Select 2 film composers:
--- Joseph Bishara -
--- Elisabeth Lutyens -
--- Lalo Schifrin -
--- Shirley Walker -

Select 5 directors:
--- James Bressack -
--- John Carpenter -
--- Terrence Fisher -
--- Adam Green -
--- Peter Jackson -
--- Franck Khalfoun -
--- Ryûhei Kitamura -
--- Deon Taylor -
--- Rob Zombie -
--- Watch a Movie Directed By a Female Director -

Select 2 makeup effects artists:
--- Al Magliochetti -
--- Mike Measimer -
--- Michelle Sfarzo -
--- Michael Spatola -

Select 2 producers:
--- Nate Bolotin -
--- Brad Fuller -
--- Enrique Lopez Lavigne -
--- Trevor Macy -

Select 2 writers:
--- Robert Bloch -
--- Jeff Buhler -
--- Jamie Nash -
--- Wesley Strick -

Select 30 of the following sub-genres / types:
--- *3-D Film -
--- Anthology Film -
--- Appears on
25 Weird Horror Movies -
--- Based on a True Story -
--- Based on a Novel -
--- Cannibalism -
--- Cinema Inspired By: Bram Stoker -
--- Cinematic Titanic / Horror Host / MST3K / RiffTrax -
--- Comedy / Spoof -
--- Criterion / Masters of Cinema Version Film -
--- Cryptid Cinema -
--- Death by: Silver Bullet -
--- Diary / Journal -
--- Director or Writer Cameo in Own Film / Film Adaptation, 2
--- Distributor / Studio: Mondo Macabro -
--- Documentary -
--- Drunk Horror -
--- Euro Horror -
--- Extraterrestrial / Takes Place in Space -
--- Film From Someone Else's 'Best of' List -
--- Film From TCM October 2019 Schedule -
--- Film Title Drop -
--- Flashback Horror -
--- Folk Horror -
--- From a Basil Gogos Painting -
--- Found Footage -
--- Frankenstein -
--- Ghost / Haunting -
--- Giallo -
--- Ouija Board -
--- Kaiju / Giant Monster -
--- K-Horror -
--- Killer / Evil Animal -
--- Killer / Evil Child -
--- Killer / Evil Doll -
--- Made-for-TV Movie -
--- Mummy -
--- Musical / Rock ‘n Roll Horror
--- Nation of Origin: Thailand -
--- Nazi -
--- Nepotism Dynasty -
--- OHMC 15th Anniversary Watch: 2005 -
--- One-Word Titles -
--- Prom -
--- Phobias -
--- Psychological -
--- Rape / Revenge -
--- Scarecrows -
--- Slasher / Psycho / Homicidal Maniac -
--- Shot in Bronson Canyon -
--- Takes Place in a Hospital -
--- Takes Place on a Farm -
--- Takes Place on a Holiday -
--- Television -
--- Three Installments in a Franchise -
--- Vampire -
--- Werewolf -
--- Witchcraft / Satanic / Religious -
--- Wilhelm Scream -
--- With Commentary -
--- With Two or More Horror Legends -
--- Zombie -

Watch films in at least three formats:
--- First format, (insert format), (insert title).
--- Second format, (insert format), (insert title).
--- Third format, (insert format), (insert title).

Watch films in at least three languages:
--- First language, (insert language), (insert title).
--- Second language, (insert language), (insert title).
--- Third language, (insert language), (insert title).

Watch 3 films that you've never seen before that:
--- Stars a Baldwin (Daniel, Stephen, William) -
--- Features time travel -
--- Was made in the 1970s -
--- Features a giant insect -
--- Was written by H.G. Wells -
--- Features a character who has a premonition -
--- Has a scene in a morgue -
--- Was shot in Alabama -
--- Is listed on the Film Registry of the National Film Preservation Board -
--- Takes place at a castle -
--- Features a vampire hunter -

Watch 1 film with a recently deceased personality:
--- Recently deceased list -

Watch 1 of your OHMC "favorites":
--- The Carrier (1988) -
--- Shakma (1990) -
--- The Killer Tongue (1996) -
--- The House by the Cemetery (1981) -
--- Death Bed: The Bed That Eats (1977) -
--- Burial Ground: The Nights of Terror (1981) -
--- Hobgoblins (1988) -
--- Microwave Massacre (1983) -
--- Killer Condom (1996) -

Select 6 decades of film history:
--- Pre-1930 -
--- 1930 -
--- 1940 -
--- 1950 -
--- 1960 -
--- 1970 -
--- 1980 -
--- 1990 -
--- 2000 -
--- 2010 -

Select 3 from the following horror film tropes:
--- The Feline Fright -
--- "Let's Split Up" -
--- The Mirror Scare -
--- The Suddenly Undependable Vehicle -
--- The Invincible Killer -
--- Dream Scares -
--- Mythology Exposition -

Select 1 from the "Chronological Horror Years Faceoff":
--- 1944 (75th) -
--- 1969 (50th) -
--- 1994 (25th) –

Select 1 from the following anniversaries:
--- 30th Anniversary of USA Up All Night -
--- 40th Anniversary of Fangoria Magazine -
--- 40th Anniversary of Svengoolie -
--- 45th Anniversary of Troma Entertainment-
--- 85th Anniversary of Hammer Films -
--- 100th Birthday of Donald Pleasence -


Select 4 ratings:
--- G -
--- PG -
--- PG-13 -
--- R -
--- NC-17 -
--- X -
--- Unrated -
--- M -
--- GP -


Attend a live event (convention, play, haunted house, ghost tour, etc.):
--- (insert event). OPTIONAL

Venture Into the Literary World:
--- Read a Horror Novel or Novella (insert title). OPTIONAL
--- Read a Horror Comic Book or Graphic Novel (insert title). OPTIONAL
--- Read a Horror Magazine (insert title). OPTIONAL
Could do something like that as well.
I like the checklist idea. I'll noodle that for a bit.
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maxwelldeux wrote: September 4th, 2020, 4:11 pm
blueboybob wrote: September 4th, 2020, 1:21 pm "Collect the Countries", Collect the Years (or Decades)
Years/Decades is easy. Countries would have to rely on self report, as I don't have the oomph in me to look up 2000+ films. Interesting thoughts.
Don't people who want to participate in bonus have to self report other stuff for hte bingo? I'd be ok with self reporting countries.
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Off-topic (at the moment), but just putting it out there that I'm expecting to have the 2021 Challenges discussion threads active some time in the next 12-15 hours.

Just saying because I know some of you get antsy. :whistling:
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maxwelldeux wrote: September 3rd, 2020, 10:15 pm I know this is a little early, but I want to think ahead so I have time to set things up... What bonus challenges do y'all want for the Horror Challenge next month (yes, I'm planning to host it barring someone jumping in SUPER eager)? Currently, I'm thinking...

#BINGO: Did this last year, basically it's horror subgenres for columns (e.g., zombies, slashers) and horror cliches (e.g., the villain won't die) for rows. I'm open to suggestions for both subgenres and cliches on this.

Kill the Zombies: Basically a passive group challenge where we see how many of the TSZDT list we can knock out.

Other thoughts? Other ideas? Hate those ideas? Bueller?
I like the Kill the Zombies idea, which I assume would work like the Top 250 Directors poll did in the Run the Director Challenge, which almost inspired me to participate a little in that challenge. I'm expecting to watch a fair number of first time viewings from the TSZDT list, and hopefully some re-watches with my kids.
mightysparks wrote: September 4th, 2020, 1:37 pm The bingo was fun, would be cool to have it again. I like the Kill the Zombies idea except I've already killed all the zombies
I'm not sure how you feel about re-watches, but I hear that they are good for the soul.
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ororama wrote: September 7th, 2020, 11:31 pm
mightysparks wrote: September 4th, 2020, 1:37 pm The bingo was fun, would be cool to have it again. I like the Kill the Zombies idea except I've already killed all the zombies
I'm not sure how you feel about re-watches, but I hear that they are good for the soul.
Maybe I don't have a soul :folded:
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Anyone know what "Southeast Asia" will entail? So I can start collecting movies.
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I'd say go with this list: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3711
I consider hosting the Southeast Asia challenge
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blueboybob wrote: September 14th, 2020, 12:35 am Anyone know what "Southeast Asia" will entail? So I can start collecting movies.
The list in Wikipedia looks accurate to me:

Brunei
Cambodia
Indonesia
Laos
Malaysia
Myanmar
Philippines
Singapore
Thailand
Timor-Leste
Vietnam

Using the Wikipedia definition, it's basically what you would expect: Southeast Asia or Southeastern Asia is the southeastern region of Asia, consisting of the regions that are geographically south of China, east of the Indian subcontinent and north-west of Australia.

So, basically countries in that area of the world that is not part of the Indian Subcontinent (e.g. no Bangladesh) and not part of Oceania (e.g. Papua New Guinea).

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Melvelet wrote: September 14th, 2020, 9:22 am I consider hosting the Southeast Asia challenge
Oh yay. 17 days before October begins, and we already have two hosts lined up. :party:

Horror - maxwelldeux

Southeast Asia - Melvelet

1990s - ?
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maxwelldeux wrote: September 3rd, 2020, 10:15 pm Kill the Zombies: Basically a passive group challenge where we see how many of the TSZDT list we can knock out.
I"m down with this idea (simple though it is) if you're still considering it. I already have most of my views lined up for Oct, but about 20% are from TSZDT.
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I'm only 25 films away from a Silver, so I'll definitely be working on TSZDT next month - though my main goal will be to beat peeps. :tongue: :run:
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sol wrote: September 15th, 2020, 12:58 pm I'm only 25 films away from a Silver, so I'll definitely be working on TSZDT next month - though my main goal will be to beat peeps. :tongue: :run:
:party: good luck to you, sol. Not sure you'll need it since I am behind the 8ball these days, but I'll try to muster some sort of fight. :guns:
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peeptoad wrote: September 15th, 2020, 12:54 pm
maxwelldeux wrote: September 3rd, 2020, 10:15 pm Kill the Zombies: Basically a passive group challenge where we see how many of the TSZDT list we can knock out.
I"m down with this idea (simple though it is) if you're still considering it. I already have most of my views lined up for Oct, but about 20% are from TSZDT.
That'll be one bonus challenge I'd expect most people to beat me in since I only have three left on the list (unless the challenge is expanded to include 1001-2000 list too).
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flavo5000 wrote: September 15th, 2020, 1:09 pm
peeptoad wrote: September 15th, 2020, 12:54 pm
maxwelldeux wrote: September 3rd, 2020, 10:15 pm Kill the Zombies: Basically a passive group challenge where we see how many of the TSZDT list we can knock out.
I"m down with this idea (simple though it is) if you're still considering it. I already have most of my views lined up for Oct, but about 20% are from TSZDT.
That'll be one bonus challenge I'd expect most people to beat me in since I only have three left on the list (unless the challenge is expanded to include 1001-2000 list too).
Or unless you get a million extra bonus points for finishing the list!
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Time to double-check who is hosting next month.
Melvelet wrote: September 14th, 2020, 9:22 am I consider hosting the Southeast Asia challenge
Are you still up for this, Melv?

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- Horror - to be hosted by maxwelldeux

- Southeast Asia - to be hosted by Melvelet (?)

- 1990s - ??

I could host the 1990s at a pinch, though without bonus challenges (I'll be too busy working on the 2021 Challenge Schedule) - but you know what to expect from me if I do end up hosting. :ph43r:
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I don't want to host if I can help it as I think I'll be more focused on.horror but I have that generation fondness for the 90's that I will host at a pinch if needed
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Potentially a bold pandemic prediction: The 2020 Horror challenge might be the first to collectively top 3000 points.

And just a fun reminder, only seven challenges have crested 2000 collective points... the last seven horror challenges we've run on this forum.
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maxwelldeux wrote: September 26th, 2020, 5:43 pm Potentially a bold pandemic prediction: The 2020 Horror challenge might be the first to collectively top 3000 points.
Oh yes; almost every month this year has been blueboybob going to war with flavo, so if we also have some other high scorers going to war here, yes, it's going to be a bloodbath. (D:)
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zzzorf wrote: September 26th, 2020, 1:00 pm I don't want to host if I can help it as I think I'll be more focused on.horror but I have that generation fondness for the 90's that I will host at a pinch if needed
Nah, it's okay, I can host. Too bad too sad if anyone was expecting to win by rewatching every episode of Seinfeld. :P
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sol wrote: September 27th, 2020, 12:52 am
maxwelldeux wrote: September 26th, 2020, 5:43 pm Potentially a bold pandemic prediction: The 2020 Horror challenge might be the first to collectively top 3000 points.
Oh yes; almost every month this year has been blueboybob going to war with flavo, so if we also have some other high scorers going to war here, yes, it's going to be a bloodbath. (D:)
We did 2926 collectively in 2017, which was the busiest challenge ever. I've got a feeling we're beating that. :circle:

And I'm expecting quite a few folks over 100, so it's going to be big time.
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sol wrote: September 27th, 2020, 12:54 am
zzzorf wrote: September 26th, 2020, 1:00 pm I don't want to host if I can help it as I think I'll be more focused on.horror but I have that generation fondness for the 90's that I will host at a pinch if needed
Nah, it's okay, I can host. Too bad too sad if anyone was expecting to win by rewatching every episode of Seinfeld. :P
Don't you want to rewatch Xfiles ? :whistling: I was planning to resume some watching of season 5 too ; I dont mind how many points you earn for them, but at least individual episodes to count, pretty please :)
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hurluberlu wrote: September 27th, 2020, 10:55 am
sol wrote: September 27th, 2020, 12:54 am
zzzorf wrote: September 26th, 2020, 1:00 pm I don't want to host if I can help it as I think I'll be more focused on.horror but I have that generation fondness for the 90's that I will host at a pinch if needed
Nah, it's okay, I can host. Too bad too sad if anyone was expecting to win by rewatching every episode of Seinfeld. :P
Don't you want to rewatch Xfiles ? :whistling: I was planning to resume some watching of season 5 too ; I dont mind how many points you earn for them, but at least individual episodes to count, pretty please :)
Well, I was going to exclude TV episodes altogether, but I could settle for 120mins = 1 point.

Of course, if you wanted to host the 1990s, you could choose as host to make 40min = 1 point. :circle:

I might still rewatch some of The X Files, we'll see. I think most of them could qualify as horror, at least from what I recall.
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Question re: the SE Asia challenge - and in general. Not sure this has come up exactly before so apologies if it was discussed to death recently - I looked back a couple of pages and didn't see anything that fits precisely. There are a number of very long films from the region - almost all from the Philippines - that are NOT TV minseries but distinct "films", most of which I have and some of which I'm planning to watch (at the very least a couple from 2008 before that poll ends). Seems sad to me just get one point for watching the 7 1/2 hour Melancholia when you'd get 7 or 8 points for watching a TV series or compilation of shorts the same length. I realize the same issue must come up for other challenges but it's even more significant for this one I think given that Lav Diaz is such a central figure in this area and so many of his films are 4+ hours long. Anyway, this issue has been only a tiny thorn in my challenge-viewing side but I started thinking about it more when we did the South Asia challenge - nobody's going to win or maybe even come close in a challenge like that one, or this upcoming one, by watching the very films that the countries are known for, because they're long and don't contribute enough points, and that's kind of sad. I'd like to see - at the very least - films that are more than 3 hours long getting a boost, though I haven't worked out any point scale and won't bother unless there's interest in this.

It's no big deal really - I wouldn't be watching all of the very long films I have in this one month and I'd be surprised if anyone else would either, regardless of the points. But I think it's an important issue in terms of fairness and competitiveness.
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