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Waves from Around the World Challenge (Official, March 2021)

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Waves from Around the World Challenge (Official, March 2021)

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Waves from Around the World Challenge

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This challenge is held for the first time and the exact definition of the eligible film movements are rather vague (no pun intended). I'm opening this thread eraly to allow for a bit of discussion and suggestions. If you intend to watch movies from a certain movement that isn't regularly called a "New Wave" that you nevertheless feel like it fits the sentiment of the challenge, please share your thoughts.

GOAL
Watch movies that are part of the various (New) Wave cinemas from around the world. Discuss them.
Lists of eligible film movements can be found in the post below. A film doesn't necessarily have to be in its respective national New Wave list but should be reasonably called a part of that movement.

RULES
- Each feature film (over 40 minutes) counts as one entry.
- 80 minutes of short films or miniseries/TV episodes counts as one entry.
- Films must be watched one at a time and at single speed (not sped up).
- Rewatches are allowed and are good for the soul.
- Please include year of release when listing your viewings.
- Please indicate each film's country/film movement when listing your viewings otherwise your score will NOT be included in the leaderboard.

Rank Participant Count Minutes 500-400 (all-time) 500-400 CC DtC noms DtC TSPDT 1000 TSPDT 2000
1 DudeLanez 70 6626 13 4 11 4 9 4 7
2 Lu-Chin 52 5021 5 1 15 5 3 12 8
3 St. Gloede 44 3715 1 1 1 4 0 1 1
4 flavo5000 35 3359 13 9 4 6 10 0 5
5 jdidaco 30 2520 0 0 0 3 0 0 0
6 Melvelet 23 2569 4 2 5 4 3 6 3
7 Bing147 21 2185 6 2 8 3 4 6 6
8 sol 16 1574 3 2 1 0 2 1 1
9 Obgeoff 15 1293 2 1 1 2 2 0 3
10 hurluberlu 14 1297 2 0 1 6 3 2 1
11 ororama 10 906 5 1 1 0 1 2 0
12 AB537 4 422 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
13 blocho 3 326 0 0 1 1 0 1 1
14 shugs 1 81 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
14 wasabi 1 105 0 0 1 0 0 1 0
- overall 339 31999 54 23 50 39 37 36 36


Country breakdown:
Country Count
UK 44
Japan 42
West Germany 40
France 38
Yugoslavia 27
USA 24
Germany 23
Czechoslovakia 16
Hong Kong 15
South Korea 15
Soviet Union 14
Brazil 10
Australia 6
Greece 5
Taiwan 5
Chile 4
Hungary 4
Finland 3
Romania 3
Turkey 3
Argentina 2
Iran 2
India 1
Italy 1
Philippines 1
Spain 1


Decade breakdown:
Decade Count
1950s 21
1960s 167
1970s 81
1980s 25
1990s 10
2000s 30
2010s 12
2020s 2

Director breakdown
Director Count
Agnès Varda 15
Tony Richardson 10
Rainer Werner Fassbinder 9
Yasuzô Masumura 9
Angela Schanelec 8
Shôhei Imamura 8
Margarethe von Trotta 7
Vera Chytilová 7
Masahiro Shinoda 6
Volker Schlöndorff 6
Zivojin Pavlovic 6
Aleksandar Petrovic 5
Basil Dearden 5
Claude Chabrol 5
John Schlesinger 5
Vojislav 'Kokan' Rakonjac 5
Jaromil Jires 4
Jean-Luc Godard 4
Joseph Losey 4
Karel Reisz 4
Kira Muratova 4
Maren Ade 4
Nelson Pereira dos Santos 4
Robert Altman 4
Valeska Grisebach 4
Alan J. Pakula 3
Alexander Kluge 3
Ann Hui 3
Chan-wook Park 3
Evald Schorm 3
Hark Tsui 3
Hsiao-Hsien Hou 3
J. Lee Thompson 3
Jan Nemec 3
Jee-woon Kim 3
Jirí Menzel 3
Larisa Shepitko 3
Nagisa Ôshima 3
Nuri Bilge Ceylan 3
Richard Lester 3
Toshio Matsumoto 3
Éric Rohmer 3
Babis Makridis 2
Danièle Huillet 2
Dusan Makavejev 2
Edward Yang 2
François Truffaut 2
Gillian Armstrong 2
Hal Ashby 2
Jacques Doniol-Valcroze 2
Jean Rouch 2
Jean-Marie Straub 2
Kihachi Okamoto 2
Klaus Lemke 2
Kon Ichikawa 2
Kôji Wakamatsu 2
Lucrecia Martel 2
Marko Babac 2
Mikko Niskanen 2
Miroslav Antic 2
Márta Mészáros 2
Otar Iosseliani 2
Patrick Tam 2
Pavel Jurácek 2
Peter Fleischmann 2
Sang-soo Hong 2
Seijun Suzuki 2
Seung-wan Ryoo 2
Tabea Blumenschein 2
Ulrike Ottinger 2
Walter Hill 2
Werner Schroeter 2
Zelimir Zilnik 2
Genre breakdown
Genre Count
Drama 274
Comedy 69
Romance 58
Crime 45
Thriller 37
Action 28
Mystery 17
Documentary 16
Short 16
Fantasy 15
Horror 13
War 8
Music 7
Sport 7
Biography 6
History 6
Adventure 4
Musical 4
Sci-Fi 3
Western 3
Animation 1
Family 1
Movies that have been challenged more than once
Times challenged Name Year IMDBICM
4 A Taste of Honey 1961 :imdb: :ICM:
4 Victim 1961 :imdb: :ICM:
3 Brewster McCloud 1970 :imdb: :ICM:
3 Brief Encounters 1967 :imdb: :ICM:
3 The Forest for the Trees 2003 :imdb: :ICM:
3 The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner 1962 :imdb: :ICM:
3 The Second Awakening of Christa Klages 1978 :imdb: :ICM:
3 The Servant 1963 :imdb: :ICM:
3 Tiger Bay 1959 :imdb: :ICM:
2 A Kind of Loving 1962 :imdb: :ICM:
2 A Tale of Two Sisters 2003 :imdb: :ICM:
2 April 1961 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Billy Liar 1963 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Birds (or How to Be One) 2020 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Bluebeard 1963 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Cleo from 5 to 7 1962 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Clouds of May 1999 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Das Glück meiner Schwester 1995 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Funeral Parade of Roses 1969 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Joint Security Area 2000 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Kisses 1957 :imdb: :ICM:
2 La Pointe Courte 1955 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Laocoon & Sons 1975 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Le Bonheur 1965 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Longing 2006 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Marianne & Juliane 1981 :imdb: :ICM:
2 My Brilliant Career 1979 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Pearls of the Deep 1965 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Punishment Room 1956 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Saturday Night and Sunday Morning 1960 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Seisaku's Wife 1965 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Something Different 1963 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Tale of Cinema 2005 :imdb: :ICM:
2 The Creatures 1966 :imdb: :ICM:
2 The Knack... and How to Get It 1965 :imdb: :ICM:
2 The Lost Honor of Katharina Blum 1975 :imdb: :ICM:
2 The Parallax View 1974 :imdb: :ICM:
2 The Sword of Doom 1966 :imdb: :ICM:
2 Western 2017 :imdb: :ICM:
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ELIGIBLE FILM MOVEMENTS

Australian New Wave
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/top+ ... haqudemus/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Au ... +New+Wave/

American New Wave: New Hollywood
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/new+ ... sadvocado/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/New+Hollywood/

Brazilian New Wave: Cinema Novo
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/braz ... daviddoes/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Cinema+Novo/

British New Wave (Overlap with "Kitchen Sink")
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/brit ... daviddoes/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/British+New+Wave/

Chilean New Cinema: Nuevo Cine Chileno
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Ne ... an+Cinema/

Cuban Imperfect Cinema
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Imperfect+Cinema/

Czechoslovak New Wave: Československá nová vlna
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/czec ... daviddoes/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Cz ... +New+Wave/

Finnish New Wave
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Finnish+New+Wave/

French New Wave: Nouvelle Vague (incl. Left Bank)
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/fren ... bearbones/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/jean ... ulanarchy/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/fren ... ve/direct/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/French+New+Wave/

German New Wave(s): Junger Deutscher Film, Neuer Deutscher Film, Berliner Schule
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/germ ... ave/zeppo/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/berl ... inema/tob/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/New+German+Cinema/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Yo ... an+Cinema/

Hong Kong New Wave: 香港新浪潮
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/hong ... daviddoes/

Hungarian New Wave
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Hu ... +New+Wave/

Iranian New Wave: موج نو سینمای ایران
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/iran ... daviddoes/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Iranian+New+Wave/

Japanese New Wave: ヌーベルバーグ / Nūberu bāgu
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/japa ... ave/zeppo/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/eros ... ma/mjf314/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Japanese+New+Wave/

Polish Film School: Polska Szkoła Filmowa
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/poli ... daviddoes/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Po ... lm+School/

Portuguese New Wave: Novo Cinema
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/port ... daviddoes/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Novo+Cinema/

Romanian New Wave: Noul val românesc
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/roma ... daviddoes/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Romanian+New+Wave/

South Korean New Wave
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/sout ... daviddoes/

Soviet New Wave
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Soviet+New+Wave/

Taiwanese New Wave
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/taiw ... /clogston/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Ta ... +New+Wave/

Third Cinema (mostly Latin America but also a couple of movies from Africa/South East Asia)
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Third%20Cinema/

Turkish New Wave
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/turk ... daviddoes/

Yugoslav Black Wave: Црни талас / Crni talas
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/yugo ... daviddoes/
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Yu ... lack+Wave/
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Please discuss whether the film movements lsted above should (all) be included.
Some "waves" that RYM lists that aren't yet included are No Wave, Finnish, Soviet, Chilean, Cuban, Third Cinema in general (also including a couple of African films)

Also Greek Weird Wave?
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do you mind if I post the recent list I made on this again, I am VERY pleased with how it turned out... :)
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There is grey area in the distinction between what a true movement is and when it is labelled as such by either producers or critics, then it just becomes a fad, a mode or (in the long run) a genre. Noir, Slow Cinema... Japanese New Wave, which is the only new wave made in/by a studio system (as the almost true independent producer ATG, there is a slight link to Toho, is not often considered when talking about the major Japanese new wave auteurs)... the intentionally commercial project of Dogme 95... it has actually become quite the fad to put a "wave" label on anything that is remotely similar these days. Remarkably, mostly by the general audience instead of critics. The way distribution goes these days and the way internet works, any potential wave is immediately a global phenomenon, so I guess the audience is just trying to come to grasp with... a lack of grasp on things...

With Greek Weird I think there was some overlap and collaboration between three or four people, giving grounds to calling it a minor wave, but only Lanthimos (quickly) got major success (and his wife Ariane Labed on the acting side) so he got more room to do his own thing, while festivals/journalists kept trying to sell any new Greek movie as being "weird"...

As far as waves produced by journalists go, I think Slow Cinema has gained traction. The theoretic base for it is flimsy in my opinion, and there is no uniform statement by any of the directors labelled under the umbrella of the term, but you do see a major spike of films experimenting with slowed down tempo and stripped narrative because of it. And these have been studied in thesis too...

I've got a book called "Film Manifestos and Global Cinema Cultures - a Critical Anthology" edited by Scott MacKenzie that might offer some guidance and inspiration. And there is my list of course ;) but not one written in stone (Sun Tribe film for instance, the way Japanese cinema works that is clearly a genre, not a movement like the similar Angry Young Men (UK) films were). Wanting to avoid these discussions, and being more excited for the female director challenge the coming month, I think I'll keep it at that ;)
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I'd include:

New Chilean Cinema
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_of ... 1960s-1989 (no list on ICM)

Berlin School:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/berl ... inema/tob/

*Berlin School (sometimeses called German New Wave, especially in France (the 60s/70s one is technically New German Cinema) is technically not over though - would be great if we could get an updated list)
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Am I the only one who is tired of waves? I'd like to see filmmakers explore other oceanic phenomena: tides, eddies, currents, whirlpools, tsunamis, waterspouts, benthic-pelagic coupling.
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blocho wrote: February 23rd, 2021, 2:00 am Am I the only one who is tired of waves? I'd like to see filmmakers explore other oceanic phenomena: tides, eddies, currents, whirlpools, tsunamis, waterspouts, benthic-pelagic coupling.
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What do you think about the inclusion of Cinema politico Italiano?
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It starts! First in. :D

1. Dangerous Encounters of the First Kind (1980) Hong Kong New Wave

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This gets off to an amazing start with lots of dark comedy, such as some cinemagoers complaining about an on-screen tank not exploding only seconds before the friends' bomb explodes. The teen's crime spree is pretty intriguing at first too, with lighthearted craziness (making bus passengers strip) soon turning more and more violent, with an encounter with a gun-toting tourist standing out. The ride gets a little exhausting by the one-hour mark though.
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Melvelet wrote: February 24th, 2021, 1:03 pm What do you think about the inclusion of Cinema politico Italiano?
I guess you might as well add it in -- if you think it fits -- since nobody has raised an objection.
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Old Waves and New Favourites (hopefully)
1. Dangerous Encounters of the First Kind (1980) Hong Kong New Wave
2. Black Test Car (1962) Japanese New Wave

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Rival car manufacturers compete with each other through underhanded means in this crime drama. The action-packed opening is great, but the majority of the film is dialogue rather than action-based. Most of the film comprises of the characters discussing possible moles and how to catch them, as well as how to be competitive. Many of the ideas that they come up with are enticing though and the film at least looks great with lots of angular shots (see above).
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1. Geuk jang jeon a.k.a. Tale of Cinema (2005) Korean New Wave
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1. Geuk jang jeon a.k.a. Tale of Cinema (2005) Korean New Wave
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Germany: Berliner Schule (#1)
1. Die Beischlafdiebin (1998, Christian Petzold) 5/10
2. In den Tag hinein (2001, Maria Speth) 6/10
3. Der Wald vor lauter Bäumen (2003, Maren Ade) 7/10

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1. Die Beischlafdiebin (1998, Christian Petzold) 5/10
2. In den Tag hinein (2001, Maria Speth) 6/10
3. Der Wald vor lauter Bäumen (2003, Maren Ade) 7/10
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Breaking the Waves
1. Dangerous Encounters of the First Kind (1980) Hong Kong New Wave
2. Black Test Car (1962) Japanese New Wave
3. Heroes Three (1983) Hong Kong New Wave

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An odd mesh of martial arts and mystery thriller elements. The film certainly has much memorable madness in its first half, from creepy masks, to one villain who kills by biting necks with his metal teeth, to a kidnapped man being tortured by having milk poured over his face (no kidding). The second half of the film though consists of far more routine action sequences, while all urgency comes to a halt for the protagonist to learn martial arts and romance.
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2. Fung gip a.k.a. The Secret (1979) Hong Kong New Wave

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3. Brewster McCloud (1970) American New Wave
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1. Geuk jang jeon a.k.a. Tale of Cinema (2005) Korean New Wave
2. Fung gip a.k.a. The Secret (1979) Hong Kong New Wave
3. Brewster McCloud (1970) American New Wave
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1. Autoportretul unei fete cuminti [Self-Portrait of a Dutiful Daughter] (Ana Lungu, 2015) - 5/10 Romanian New Wave
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1. Coogan's bluff (Don Siegel, 1968) [American New Wave: New Hollywood] 6
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1. Die bleierne Zeit (1981) 6/10 German New Wave: Neuer Deutscher Film
2. Cléo de 5 à 7 (1962) 7/10 French New Wave
3. La Pointe-Courte (1955) 7/10 French New Wave
4. Saturday Night and Sunday Morning (1960) 8/10 British New Wave
5. Billy Liar (1963) 7/10 British New Wave
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Claude Charbrol (French New Wave)

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Claude Chabrol, creater of films that are more intelligent/interesting in theory than they are good?

Perhaps.

I have long wondered why Chabrol is often written out of the French New Wave canon so early - despite being a Cahiers du cinema writer (theoretically giving him instant inclusion) yet films like Wise Guys (which JLG listed as one of the 6 best post-WW2 French films back in '68), Landru and Ophelia - made in 1961, 1962 and 1963 respectively - before Godard even did Bande à part - are generally not mentioned.

After seeing them, the main reason is clear: they're just not very good.

They honestly feel closer to works from the low-tier new wavers no one talks about, like Pierre Kast and Jacques Doniol-Valcroze (he even co-founder Cahier du cinema - but his films are so mediocre people still don't want to talk about him).

Anyhow, these films do deserve to be included, and they do actually - despite being among his worst films - and certainly among the weakest of the movement - all have something interesting about them.

Let's dive in, shall we.

1. Les godelureaux / Wise Guys (1961)

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Now - Wise Guys is a thoroughly bizarre film that seems a bit like 40s Jacques Becker meets low-brow Pierre Étaix (ok, just barely) ...

Ok, no, it is rather like he wanted to do Jules and Jim or Bande à part before his colleagues.

The base elements are actually there - an outlandish duo/trio muck about Paris - have fun - play tricks and something more sinister occurs.

It has the same freshness of just being out on the street - it has the bits of choppiness and shakiness of the earliest new wave films. It has the play - and it has Paris! In fact, the film starts with Paris, and a group of jokers carrying a car onto the pavement so they can part. Their spot they say - only trouble is - the overly rich and mischievous Roland (Jean-Claude Brialy) decides to get payback.

The results are outlandish grooming and practical jokes, as he establishes himself in the perpetrator's lives - especially that of Arthur - who he sets up with a woman designed to break his heart - Ambroisine (early Chabrol regular Bernadette Lafont) - and so - as in a nihilistic, long joke - we watch it all unfold.

The problem is - it just feels silly - including Roland's bizarre-looking butler/servant - and the entire set-up (now this is where I see a pinch of Étaix). Honestly, the film is tonally confused - attempting to play callous, sinister humour - too an extent - but feeling too mild. It just has no power. The characters are flat or uninteresting - and while well shot and made from a technical perspective - thereæs neither life - not a kind of nihilistic coldness - in the frames. It just exists.

Pondering over the elements of the plot - one ray of light was the possibility of metaphor.

Roland comes from the left bank, and drives into Paris (not his terrain) where people thinking they own the spot throw him out - lead of course by Arthur (I have seen it claimed that Godard later used Arthur as a pun on auteur in Bande à part - this could be the case here too). If that is the case the film is really enjoying some beef between Left Bank and Cahiers du Cinema - and how they went on to cause rockus together. There's even some American allusions there. No idea if this reading really holds up - but it would give it some added value. 5/10.


2. Landru (1963)

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Landru is based on the live of real-life serial killer, Henri Désiré Landru - the same story Chaplin covered in Monsieur Verdoux - and as a fascinating trivia both films were disasters to the point that they could have ended the directors' respective careers (or at least, so the film trivia goes).

The similarities so end there, though I will say Landu is the best of these 3 films.

Shot in colour (Chabrol's second - first being '59s À double tour) - the visuals are often lavish. Chabrol seemed to want to work with as many colours as possible - especially in the apartments. Stylized, yet stripped back - Chabrol clearly tries to do something interesting with the tale - and to an extent - he does succeed.

Our lead, Charles Denner, has nowhere near the charisma of Chaplin - and stikes a bit of a silly picture at first - but as the film grows on he does start to fill in the role quite well. A large part of that is due to Chabrol and his editor and how they decide to cut. At one point we see Landru go through a long set of victims - and it is done with a degree of callous play.

The murders themselves are entirely written out - only alluded to - and again with stripped back elements that slowly becomes humorous.

All the same, it is neither a strong black comedy - nor a striking drama or thriller. It is solid, good, but nothing more - and a large part of this is once again on Chabrol. The visuals are just a little off - they don't have magnetism - yes, perhaps we can blame cinematographer Jean Rabier - who worked on all these 3 films - and perhaps the lack of experience in colour - but it really seems to set itself up for mediocre compositions - even when the colours are striking.

Note: Jean Rabier would do The Umbrellas of Cherbourg the next year, and did Cleo in between.

The way WW1 is worked in is also quite off tonally, feeling as if it is played for comedy - but not really hitting any marks for me. The latter parts of the film also loses a little steam, but it is decent/good enough until the end. 5.5-6/10.


3. Ophelia (1963)

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Ophelia is a surprisingly clever and playful take on Hamlet - setting it to present day - and making it fairly genius in that the lead character is both in a similar situation to Hamlet and is interpreting the situation - to an extent through Hamlet - more specifically Laurence Olivier's 1948 film. This could have been the set-up for a masterpiece - especially as it replaces the play Hamlet puts on to showcase his theory - with a short film. Film on film - an unstable reality - and an Ophelia that is not Ophelia but Lucy - makes the film jump out of the page.

But: what on earth has happened to Chabrol?

Again we see perfectly solid compositions - but it is the tone, how the actors deliver their lines - the atmosphere and life - that is bringing it all down. This simply does not feel like the work of an experienced and talented director. True, this was still in his first 6 years as a filmmaker, but it was his 9th film ...

Don't get my wrong - most is adequate - though theatricality, weak acting, etc. does bring it down. It feels a little too comical, even when it would seem like it should seem serious. Just as with Wise Guys, there appears to be tonal confusion - but again - a perfectly adequate film. 5.5/10.

Final note:

It is important for the context that even though The Good Time Girls is often the last film included among Chabrol's new wave efforts, the above three films - along with The Third Lover (1962 - which I also rated 5/10) were films that Chabrol specifically wanted to make. It was only after the financial failures of almost all of his 60s films (including his wonderful The Good Time Girls) - which then forced him to do the adventure film An Orchid for the Tiger in 1964 - which I have not yet seen - but would be a much clearer point of diversion from the path of his Cahiers du cinema colleagues.
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Germany: Berliner Schule (#2)
4. Kroko (2003, Sylke Enders) 7/10
5. Sehnsucht (2006, Valeska Grisebach) 6/10
6. Der Räuber (2010, Benjamin Heisenberg) 7/10
7. Schlafkrankheit (2011, Ulrich Köhler) 5/10
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Germany: Berliner Schule
1. Die Beischlafdiebin (1998, Christian Petzold) 5/10
2. In den Tag hinein (2001, Maria Speth) 6/10
3. Der Wald vor lauter Bäumen (2003, Maren Ade) 7/10
4. Kroko (2003, Sylke Enders) 7/10
5. Sehnsucht (2006, Valeska Grisebach) 6/10
6. Der Räuber (2010, Benjamin Heisenberg) 7/10
7. Schlafkrankheit (2011, Ulrich Köhler) 5/10
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Thank your for hosting, Melvelet!

(Has the Greek Weird Wave been vetoed??)

(Screenshots from 'Das Unheil' & 'Die Reise nach Lyon'),

German New Wave - Neuer Deutscher Film

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1. Das Unheil (Havoc, Peter Fleischmann, 1972) 8.5/10
2. Laokoon & Söhne (Laocoon & Sons, Ulrike Ottinger & Tabea Blumenschein, 1975) 8.5/10
3. Die Atlantikschwimmer (The Atlantic Swimmers, Herbert Achternbusch, 1976) 9/10
4. Die Reise nach Lyon (Blind Spot, Claudia von Alemann, 1981) 8.5/10

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2. April (Otar Iosseliani, 1961) [Soviet New Wave] 7+
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1. Coogan's bluff (Don Siegel, 1968) [American New Wave: New Hollywood] 6
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Germany: Berliner Schule (#3)
8. Das Glück meiner Schwester (1995, Angela Schanelec) 6/10
9. Der traumhafte Weg (2016, Angela Schanelec) 5/10
10. Ich war zuhause, aber (2019, Angela Schanelec) 4/10
11. Unter dir die Stadt (2010, Christoph Hochhäusler) 7/10
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Germany: Berliner Schule
1. Die Beischlafdiebin (1998, Christian Petzold) 5/10
2. In den Tag hinein (2001, Maria Speth) 6/10
3. Der Wald vor lauter Bäumen (2003, Maren Ade) 7/10
4. Kroko (2003, Sylke Enders) 7/10
5. Sehnsucht (2006, Valeska Grisebach) 6/10
6. Der Räuber (2010, Benjamin Heisenberg) 7/10
7. Schlafkrankheit (2011, Ulrich Köhler) 5/10
8. Das Glück meiner Schwester (1995, Angela Schanelec) 6/10
9. Der traumhafte Weg (2016, Angela Schanelec) 5/10
10. Ich war zuhause, aber (2019, Angela Schanelec) 4/10
11. Unter dir die Stadt (2010, Christoph Hochhäusler) 7/10
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1. Le Bonheur (1965, Agnes Varda) French New Wave
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Breaking the Waves
1. Dangerous Encounters of the First Kind (1980) Hong Kong New Wave
2. Black Test Car (1962) Japanese New Wave
3. Heroes Three (1983) Hong Kong New Wave
4. Shura / Demons (1971) Japanese New Wave

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This gets off to an excellent start with an eerie nightmare in pure blackness at night. The bulk of the first hour though is dialogue-heavy drama with little in the way of atmosphere. Things do pick up after the one-hour mark with some grisly violence and replayed scenes as the protagonist imagines reactions to poisoned sake being drunk and so on before it actually happens. The movie is still very conversation-based though until its breathtaking final 25 minutes.
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jdidaco wrote: March 6th, 2021, 3:29 am (Has the Greek Weird Wave been vetoed??)
No, I think I'm fine with it

By the way, the current FotW: Der Wald vor lauter Bäumen AKA The Forest for the Trees (2003) is eligible for this challenge
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4. Yuke yuke nidome no shojo a.k.a. Go Go Scond Time Virgin (1969) Japanese New Wave

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5. Naechureol siti a.k.a. Natural City (2003) Korean New Wave
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1. Geuk jang jeon a.k.a. Tale of Cinema (2005) Korean New Wave
2. Fung gip a.k.a. The Secret (1979) Hong Kong New Wave
3. Brewster McCloud (1970) American New Wave
4. Yuke yuke nidome no shojo a.k.a. Go Go Scond Time Virgin (1969) Japanese New Wave
5. Naechureol siti a.k.a. Natural City (2003) Korean New Wave
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12. Skupljaci perja (1967, Aleksandar Petrovic) 6/10 Yugoslav Black Wave
13. The League of Gentlemen (1960, Basil Dearden) 7/10 British New Wave
14. Victim (1961, Basil Dearden) 7/10 British New Wave
15. A Taste of Honey (1961, Tony Richardson) 6/10 British New Wave
16. Vidas Secas (1963, Nelson Pereira dos Santos) 7/10 Brazilian New Wave: Cinema Novo
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Germany: Berliner Schule
1. Die Beischlafdiebin (1998, Christian Petzold) 5/10
2. In den Tag hinein (2001, Maria Speth) 6/10
3. Der Wald vor lauter Bäumen (2003, Maren Ade) 7/10
4. Kroko (2003, Sylke Enders) 7/10
5. Sehnsucht (2006, Valeska Grisebach) 6/10
6. Der Räuber (2010, Benjamin Heisenberg) 7/10
7. Schlafkrankheit (2011, Ulrich Köhler) 5/10
8. Das Glück meiner Schwester (1995, Angela Schanelec) 6/10
9. Der traumhafte Weg (2016, Angela Schanelec) 5/10
10. Ich war zuhause, aber (2019, Angela Schanelec) 4/10
11. Unter dir die Stadt (2010, Christoph Hochhäusler) 7/10

Yugoslav Black Wave
12. Skupljaci perja (1967, Aleksandar Petrovic) 6/10

British New Wave
13. The League of Gentlemen (1960, Basil Dearden) 7/10
14. Victim (1961, Basil Dearden) 7/10
15. A Taste of Honey (1961, Tony Richardson) 6/10

Brazilian New Wave: Cinema Novo
16. Vidas Secas (1963, Nelson Pereira dos Santos) 7/10
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1. Die bleierne Zeit (1981) 6/10 German New Wave: Neuer Deutscher Film
2. Cléo de 5 à 7 (1962) 7/10 French New Wave
3. La Pointe-Courte (1955) 7/10 French New Wave
4. Saturday Night and Sunday Morning (1960) 8/10 British New Wave
5. Billy Liar (1963) 7/10 British New Wave
6. Hotel (2004) 4/10 German New Wave: Berliner Schule
7. O necem jiném (1963) 4/10 Czechoslovak New Wave
8. A Taste of Honey (1961) 7/10 British New Wave
9. The Servant (1963) 8/10 British New Wave
10. The Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach (1968) 5/10 German New Wave: Neuer Deutscher Film
11. The Forest for the Trees (2003) 7/10 German New Wave: Berliner Schule
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1. This Sporting Life 1963 8/10 British New Wave
My experience with the British New Wave/kitchen sink realism are sparse so I decided that this will be one of my main focusses this month. The playfulness (filmmaking wise) of other New Waves doesn't seem to be a particular concern for the British directors but the flashback structure is not that far away and the cinematography is reminding is making me excited for a 60s-heavy month. I especially want to praise the writing (I figure a lot of the biggest achievement of this film movement are based on books) and strong performances, Richard Harris does a great job making his character feel like a tragic (anti-)hero that is hard to actually find sympathetic, a kind of hypermasculine (nowadays he might be called toxic masculine) character that in sports films would most regularly be a boxer. Not that rugby (especially his intentionally nose-breaking way of playing it) would be considerably less violent. For a sports movie the actual sports scenes are a bit uninteresting.

2. The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner 1962 8/10 British New Wave
Now a character that is more on the "rebellious" side of an "angry young man" than on the frustrated side although he doesn't quite seem to know where his rebellion is supposed to lead.

3. Heaven's Gate 1980 8-/10 New Hollywood
Excessive is the first word that comes to mind, not just in terms of money-to-outcome ratio but a lot of the scenes in some way feels overlong with dialogue that doesn't say all that much and quite a few sequences make you wonder why they exist in the first place. And suddenly there's an endless, often disorientating 30 minute battle sequence. And still I quite enjoyed it (although chances are I won't ever sit through it again) as much as I enjoyed so many other movies of that wonderful era that it arguably ended. Not so sure though if the high casualties were worth it,
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just like the high casualties in the battle scene ended up semi-succesful.
4. Duel 1971 9-/10 New Hollywood
And who would have guessed that my first favourite in almost half a year would be a fucking Spielberg movie? Funnily enough another one of these men that would arguably help ending New Hollywood. But I just couldn't help but admire what was made with such a simple premise and a low budget. Would have been fun to see an alternative reality in which Spielberg didn't get the career he (deservedly) ended up getting but would have kept doing low-budget movies like this one.

4 more movies I've watched that I will a write a line or two about later. Also I will hopefully finally create the first leaderboard later today
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Melvelet wrote: March 8th, 2021, 12:13 pm
4. Duel 1971 9-/10 New Hollywood
And who would have guessed that my first favourite in almost half a year would be a fucking Spielberg movie? Funnily enough another one of these men that would arguably help ending New Hollywood. But I just couldn't help but admire what was made with such a simple premise and a low budget. Would have been fun to see an alternative reality in which Spielberg didn't get the career he (deservedly) ended up getting but would have kept doing low-budget movies like this one.
You know, it seems like people get so caught up fixating on what Spielberg represents (the birth of the Hollywood Blockbuster, etc.) that they forget he's a damned good director when he wants to be.
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Chilean New Wave / New Chilean Cinema

Chilean New Wave is extremely exciting as it, along with Cinema Marginal and Cuban Imperfect Cinema, show us what raw power cinema can have if stripped down to the bones. Often over-exposed, the light edges and shaking cameras - often with strong left-wing advocacy - be it a focus on revolution or the situation of the poor - the work feels unfiltered and powerful.

This is also one of the new waves cut short by violence (and it is not the only one).

In 1973 there was a US-backed military coup ushering in the violent dictatorship of General Pinochet - one of the most tragic events in modern history - destroying freedom of speech and sending the majority of the new wave directors into exile. The events played a large part in the movement as well, with several films made by the top names reflecting on the coup - such as Guzman's The Battle of Chile trilogy.

In this set, I am looking into 3 of the key films from the movement, by three of the key names.


4. La tierra prometida / The Promised Land (1973, Miguel Littin)

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Miguel Littin blew me away with Jackal of Nahueltoro (1969), currently ranked #1 on CineChile's 50 Best Chilean Movies of All Time and probably my favourite film from Chile as well. I may therefore have set my expectations for his follow-up a little too high.

In many ways, they are comparable - both placing masses of people in frames - showing the chaos of battle/fights - and possessing a kind of raw, rough brutality - though in the former there was tension - and a clear unifying lead. It was even explosive at times. The Promised land is more scattered, almost as a stream of consciousness - with great scenes, but less dramatic. To an extent, this makes sense - covering a community and a broad event - and the style can work - but it was simply not as scathing and immersive. Perhaps in part because it was in colour (though it frequently manages to shine all the same) or perhaps because of its fairly flat focus on symbolism, showing nude angels, etc. and it is this "flatness" that hurts it.

There was also an early scene I felt undermined the film to an extreme degree. You have, throughout, and older narrator presented as someone who survived. It gives it all a nostalgic feeling - adds a degree of sadness and sobers the chaos and loose lines up. However, in showing some of the failings of this attempt of utopia the narrator includes the rape - by him and 8 others - and seem to broadly brush it off. Quite sickening. 6/10.

*The Promised Land is of additional historical importance as it was started while Littin was the director of the state-owned Chile Films - a position he got due to the success of Jackal of Nahueltoro - but could only be finished while in exile in Mexico after the coup.


5. Valparaíso mi amor / Valparaiso My Love (1969, Aldo Francia) - #3 on CineChile's 50 Best Chilean Movies of All Time

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Clawed bare to the bone, this is a perfect visual representation of the Chilean New Cinema style that is saw haunting and effective. We start with people running, long pans, overexposed visuals - they are arrested. We follow men as they walk - the camera is shaking. We see the general scales of justice in the form of waiting, pleading from family and a media circus around the family and their position. It is raw, both it content and form, not to mention manners: letting us feel the oppression of jail, the lack of care from reporters and the feeling of poverty. It is also poetical, in following the misadventures of the children - and the tragedies that ensue - with minimalism and metaphor. Simple, yet powerful - though a little to scattered to reach greatness for me. 7/10.


6. Largo Viaje / A Long Journey (1967, Patricio Kaulen) - #7 on CineChile's 50 Best Chilean Movies of All Time

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A Long Journey is far more traditionally beautiful in terms of its visuals and falls into the fairly small - but intriguing sub-group of new wave films focusing on the experience of children - here too painting a web of a society that focuses on class relations with poverty at the forefront. Casting his own son, Enrique Kaulen, in the lead as "boy" - we see him hopeful of a young brothers arrival - to confusion at the baby's death - as we observe his family's mourning, dance, questioning and despair - which sends Boy roaming the streets and experiencing run-ins with prostitutes, gangs and the policies. A little too fleeting and obscured to really claw its way all the way up to greatness, it is still a really strong film and experience. 7.5/10.
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Just watched Rani Radovy / Early Works (1967) - Yugoslav Black Wave - and what a coincidence:

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17. Macunaíma (1969, Joaquim Pedro de Andrade) 4/10 Brazilian New Wave: Cinema Novo
18. Sudba cheloveka (1959, Sergey Bondarchuk) 7/10 Soviet New Wave
19. Devyat dney odnogo goda (1962, Mikhail Romm) 6/10 Soviet New Wave
20. Ya shagayu po Moskve (1964, Georgiy Daneliya) 7/10 Soviet New Wave
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Germany: Berliner Schule
1. Die Beischlafdiebin (1998, Christian Petzold) 5/10
2. In den Tag hinein (2001, Maria Speth) 6/10
3. Der Wald vor lauter Bäumen (2003, Maren Ade) 7/10
4. Kroko (2003, Sylke Enders) 7/10
5. Sehnsucht (2006, Valeska Grisebach) 6/10
6. Der Räuber (2010, Benjamin Heisenberg) 7/10
7. Schlafkrankheit (2011, Ulrich Köhler) 5/10
8. Das Glück meiner Schwester (1995, Angela Schanelec) 6/10
9. Der traumhafte Weg (2016, Angela Schanelec) 5/10
10. Ich war zuhause, aber (2019, Angela Schanelec) 4/10
11. Unter dir die Stadt (2010, Christoph Hochhäusler) 7/10

Yugoslav Black Wave
12. Skupljaci perja (1967, Aleksandar Petrovic) 6/10

British New Wave
13. The League of Gentlemen (1960, Basil Dearden) 7/10
14. Victim (1961, Basil Dearden) 7/10
15. A Taste of Honey (1961, Tony Richardson) 6/10

Brazilian New Wave: Cinema Novo
16. Vidas Secas (1963, Nelson Pereira dos Santos) 7/10
17. Macunaíma (1969, Joaquim Pedro de Andrade) 4/10

Soviet New Wave: Khrushchev Thaw
18. Sudba cheloveka (1959, Sergey Bondarchuk) 7/10
19. Devyat dney odnogo goda (1962, Mikhail Romm) 6/10
20. Ya shagayu po Moskve (1964, Georgiy Daneliya) 7/10
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21. Korotkie vstrechi (1967, Kira Muratova) 7/10 Soviet New Wave
22. Dolgie provody (1971, Kira Muratova) 6/10 Soviet New Wave
Waves from Around the World
Germany: Berliner Schule
1. Die Beischlafdiebin (1998, Christian Petzold) 5/10
2. In den Tag hinein (2001, Maria Speth) 6/10
3. Der Wald vor lauter Bäumen (2003, Maren Ade) 7/10
4. Kroko (2003, Sylke Enders) 7/10
5. Sehnsucht (2006, Valeska Grisebach) 6/10
6. Der Räuber (2010, Benjamin Heisenberg) 7/10
7. Schlafkrankheit (2011, Ulrich Köhler) 5/10
8. Das Glück meiner Schwester (1995, Angela Schanelec) 6/10
9. Der traumhafte Weg (2016, Angela Schanelec) 5/10
10. Ich war zuhause, aber (2019, Angela Schanelec) 4/10
11. Unter dir die Stadt (2010, Christoph Hochhäusler) 7/10

Yugoslav Black Wave
12. Skupljaci perja (1967, Aleksandar Petrovic) 6/10

British New Wave
13. The League of Gentlemen (1960, Basil Dearden) 7/10
14. Victim (1961, Basil Dearden) 7/10
15. A Taste of Honey (1961, Tony Richardson) 6/10

Brazilian New Wave: Cinema Novo
16. Vidas Secas (1963, Nelson Pereira dos Santos) 7/10
17. Macunaíma (1969, Joaquim Pedro de Andrade) 4/10

Soviet New Wave: Khrushchev Thaw
18. Sudba cheloveka (1959, Sergey Bondarchuk) 7/10
19. Devyat dney odnogo goda (1962, Mikhail Romm) 6/10
20. Ya shagayu po Moskve (1964, Georgiy Daneliya) 7/10
21. Korotkie vstrechi (1967, Kira Muratova) 7/10
22. Dolgie provody (1971, Kira Muratova) 6/10
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1. Die bleierne Zeit (1981) 6/10 German New Wave: Neuer Deutscher Film
2. Cléo de 5 à 7 (1962) 7/10 French New Wave
3. La Pointe-Courte (1955) 7/10 French New Wave
4. Saturday Night and Sunday Morning (1960) 8/10 British New Wave
5. Billy Liar (1963) 7/10 British New Wave
6. Hotel (2004) 4/10 German New Wave: Berliner Schule
7. O necem jiném (1963) 4/10 Czechoslovak New Wave
8. A Taste of Honey (1961) 7/10 British New Wave
9. The Servant (1963) 8/10 British New Wave
10. The Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach (1968) 5/10 German New Wave: Neuer Deutscher Film
11. The Forest for the Trees (2003) 7/10 German New Wave: Berliner Schule
12. A Hard Day's Night (1964) 7/10 British New Wave
13. Sehnsucht (2006) 6/10 German New Wave: Berliner Schule
14. Georgy Girl (1966) 7/10 British New Wave
15. Ovoce stromu rajských jíme (1970) 7/10 Czechoslovak New Wave
16. Victim (1961) 8/10 British New Wave
17. The Lost Honor of Katharina Blum (1975) 8/10 German New Wave: Neuer Deutscher Film
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6. A Taste of Honey (1961) British New Wave

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7. Pido nunmuldo eobshi a.k.a. No Blood No Tears (2002) Korean New Wave
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1. Geuk jang jeon a.k.a. Tale of Cinema (2005) Korean New Wave
2. Fung gip a.k.a. The Secret (1979) Hong Kong New Wave
3. Brewster McCloud (1970) American New Wave
4. Yuke yuke nidome no shojo a.k.a. Go Go Scond Time Virgin (1969) Japanese New Wave
5. Naechureol siti a.k.a. Natural City (2003) Korean New Wave
6. A Taste of Honey (1961) British New Wave
7. Pido nunmuldo eobshi a.k.a. No Blood No Tears (2002) Korean New Wave
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