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World Cup, Season 3, Match 1G: England vs Hong Kong vs Bulgaria vs Argentina

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World Cup, Season 3, Match 1G: England vs Hong Kong vs Bulga

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This is match 1G of the third season of iCM Forum's Film World Cup.

CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
EnglandIce Cold in Alex1958funkybusinesslinklink
Hong KongTou zeA Simple Life2011Smooverlinklink
BulgariaRitzar bez bronyaKnight Without Armour1966Mario Gaborovićlinklink
ArgentinaLa casa del ángelEnd of Innocence1957RBGlinklink

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Ice Cold in Alex
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Tou ze
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Ritzar bez bronya
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La casa del ángel
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Voting Rules:
- You must watch all 4 films before you vote.
- To vote, rank the 4 films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)

Voting deadline = May 13th
Countdown till deadline

The countries that end at 1st and 2nd place proceed to the next round. The ranking of the match will be decided using these rules:
- Ranked by lowest average ranking.
- In case of a tie between two movies, head-to-head determines the winner (how many people thought A>B and how many thought B>A).
- In case there's still a tie after the previous rule or there is a tie between three or four movies, most #1-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? Fewest #4-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? The match will have a 3 day extension (except when the tie is only between #3 and #4).
Here's a quick summary of how the tournament works
We start with 48 films from 48 countries. Each country has a manager who determines which movie will be watched. In the first round the countries are divided into 12 groups of 4. From each group the countries that end up at #1 and #2 proceed to the next round. In the 2nd round the 24 remaining countries will be divided into 8 groups of 3. The managers pick a new movie. The winner of each group proceeds to the next round. The final 8 countries compete one-on-one in the quarter finals (with a new movie of course) and so on till the final.
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Take a look at the screenshot of La casa del ángel. Is that really the best copy available?
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1. Tou ze 8/10
2. Ice Cold in Alex 7/10
3. Ritzar bez bronya 6/10
4. La casa del ángel 6/10

I enjoyed the first three films.
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Best group so far, and the second best overall. Had only seen Ice Cold in Alex before and I thought it would be a clear number one for me. But Tou ze was so good, and the performance from Deannie Yip was absolutely amazing

1. Tou ze 9/10
2. Ice Cold in Alex 9/10
3. Ritzar bez bronya 7/10
4. La casa del ángel 6/10

Good choices y’all!
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1. La casa del ángel [End of Innocence]
2. Рицар без броня [Knight Without Armour]
3. Ice Cold in Alex
4. 桃姐 [A Simple Life]
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joachimt on Apr 15 2018, 02:04:16 PM wrote:Take a look at the screenshot of La casa del ángel. Is that really the best copy available?
Believe or not it's a DVDRip. There is a TDTRip with slightly higher resolution
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Resolución: 640*464

Formato: .avi TDTRip INCAA TV

Codec Video: Xvid 2 pass

Codec Audio: mp3

Bitrate Video: 1216 kb/s

Ratio de Muestra: 48000Hz

Bitrate Audio: 123 kb/s Joint Stereo VBR

Idioma: español

Ripper: retibuyendo

Duración: 1:12:20

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Re-sync subs would be necessary, though.
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Angel Glez on Apr 15 2018, 02:54:27 PM wrote:
joachimt on Apr 15 2018, 02:04:16 PM wrote:Take a look at the screenshot of La casa del ángel. Is that really the best copy available?
Believe or not it's a DVDRip. There is a TDTRip with slightly higher resolution
Spoiler: click to toggle
Resolución: 640*464

Formato: .avi TDTRip INCAA TV

Codec Video: Xvid 2 pass

Codec Audio: mp3

Bitrate Video: 1216 kb/s

Ratio de Muestra: 48000Hz

Bitrate Audio: 123 kb/s Joint Stereo VBR

Idioma: español

Ripper: retibuyendo

Duración: 1:12:20

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Re-sync subs would be necessary, though.
That looks significantly better, not just the resolution but that it doesn't look like you're watching through a dirty smeared window.
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PeacefulAnarchy on Apr 15 2018, 02:59:21 PM wrote:
Angel Glez on Apr 15 2018, 02:54:27 PM wrote:
joachimt on Apr 15 2018, 02:04:16 PM wrote:Take a look at the screenshot of La casa del ángel. Is that really the best copy available?
Believe or not it's a DVDRip. There is a TDTRip with slightly higher resolution
Spoiler: click to toggle
Resolución: 640*464

Formato: .avi TDTRip INCAA TV

Codec Video: Xvid 2 pass

Codec Audio: mp3

Bitrate Video: 1216 kb/s

Ratio de Muestra: 48000Hz

Bitrate Audio: 123 kb/s Joint Stereo VBR

Idioma: español

Ripper: retibuyendo

Duración: 1:12:20

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Re-sync subs would be necessary, though.
That looks significantly better, not just the resolution but that it doesn't look like you're watching through a dirty smeared window.
Absolutely!
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1. Ice Cold in Alex
2. Ritzar bez bronya
3. Tou ze
4. La casa del angel
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Tou ze - 8
La casa del ángel - 7.2
Ritzar bez bronya - 7
Ice Cold in Alex - 7
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Best round so far.

1. A Simple Life
2. Knight Without Armour
3. Ice Cold in Alex
4. End of Innocence
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Ritzar bez bronya
Ice Cold in Alex
La casa del ángel
Tou ze
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i guess i should have chosen alonso or piñeiro for better viewing quality :( i've watched so many messed up films i didn't really think about it

will watch hong kong and bulgaria entries this week. cheers

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Image Tou ze: 2.143 (13-8)
Image Ritzar bez bronya: 2.286 (12-9)
Image Ice Cold in Alex: 2.429 (11-10)
Image La casa del ángel: 3.143 (6-15)
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The kid in Ritzar bez bronya looks so familiar to me, but I can't figure out what movie he reminds me of. I haven't seen any of his other credits on IMDb.
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Got it! Looks a lot like the kid in Cinema Paradiso.
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Image Tou ze: 2.143 (13-8)
Image Ritzar bez bronya: 2.286 (12-9)
Image Ice Cold in Alex: 2.429 (11-10)
Image La casa del ángel: 3.143 (6-15)
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1. La casa del ángel

2. Ice Cold in Alex

3. Tou ze

4. Ritzar bez bronya
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Never a doubt in my mind as to the top spot!

1. Ice Cold in Alex
2. Tou ze
3. Ritzar bez bronya
4. La casa del angel
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1. Tou ze
2. Ritzar bez bronya
3. La casa del ángel
4. Ice Cold in Alex
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Ice Cold in Alex - a nice addition to the "Truck of Death" films like Wages of Fear, Sorcerer, that Syrian WC movie and Mad Max Fury Road. Solid 8
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this must be my first 4-way match one with no drops below the good ol 6
also only had to watch 2 and a half hours (2 movies), probably the shortest round for me

Ice Cold In Alex 8
Ritzar bez bronya 7
La casa del Angel 6+
too bad about the subs. dissimulate? had to look that up! also some lines were not translated so I made use of the russian translation (could've updated the subs with it). fixed some typos as usual.
Tou ze 6

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thanks for that armoreska
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Armoreska on Apr 20 2018, 03:42:53 PM wrote:Ice Cold In Alex 8
Ritzar bez bronya 7
La casa del Angel 6+
Tou ze 6
Same vote from me, but slightly different ratings.

Alex 8+
Ritzar 8
Casa 7
Tou ze 6
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Image Ice Cold in Alex: 2.167 (22-14)
Image Tou ze: 2.417 (19-17)
Image Ritzar bez bronya: 2.417 (19-17)
Image La casa del ángel: 3 (12-24)

Image Tou ze - Image Ritzar bez bronya: 7 - 5
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la casa del angel
ice cold in alex
ritzar bez bronya
tou ze

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enjoyed all these. cheers. and thanks to everyone for help w/file and translation :)
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1. Tou ze (Hong Kong)
2. Ice Cold in Alex (England)
3. La casa del ángel (Argentina)
4. Ritzar bez bronya (Bulgaria)

Another great round -- thanks to funky, Smoover, Mario, and RBG! I like Ice Cold in Alex (and the other two) a lot, but Tou ze has been a huge favorite of mine ever since I saw it a few years back.
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Interesting stat: Out of 14 votes so far Tou ze was either #1 or #4 11 times. Quite a divisive movie apparently.
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1. Tou ze 8.0
2. Ice Cold in Alex 8.0
3. Ritzar bez bronya 7.5
4. La casa del ángel 7.0

Thanks to RBG, funky and Mario for this good round.
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1. Tou ze (2011)
2. Ice Cold in Alex (1958)
3. Ritzar bez bronya (1966)
4. La casa del ángel (1957)
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Three #1-votes for Tou ze in a row makes the gap between #2 and #3 bigger.

Image Ice Cold in Alex: 2.125 (30-18)
Image Tou ze: 2.25 (28-20)
Image Ritzar bez bronya: 2.625 (22-26)
Image La casa del ángel: 3 (16-32)
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1. Ice Cold in Alex
2. Tou ze
3. Ritzar bez bronya
4. La casa del ángel
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1. Tou ze - 8/10
2. Ice Cold in Alex - 7.5/10
3. Ritzar bez bronya - 7/10
4. La casa del ángel - 6/10
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01. Tou ze

02. La casa del ángel

03. Ice Cold in Alex

04. Ritzar bez bronya
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1. Ritzar bez bronya
2. La casa del ángel
3. Ice Cold in Alex
4. Tou ze
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joachimt on Apr 27 2018, 09:03:53 AM wrote:Interesting stat: Out of 14 votes so far Tou ze was either #1 or #4 11 times. Quite a divisive movie apparently.
This keeps going on. 20 votes. 16 votes were either #1 or #4.

Image Ice Cold in Alex: 2.15 (37-23)
Image Tou ze: 2.2 (36-24)
Image Ritzar bez bronya: 2.65 (27-33)
Image La casa del ángel: 3 (20-40)
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I didn't know that my pick would be polarizing that much :D
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Have to agree with several others, best round so far. Great picks all around!

1. Tou ze 9/10
2. La casa del ángel 7/10
3. Ice Cold in Alex 7/10
4. Ritzar bez bronya 7/10
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Lilarcor on May 5 2018, 08:59:22 PM wrote:best round so far
I'm getting curious for sebby's ratings. :whistling:
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joachimt on May 6 2018, 02:29:26 AM wrote:
Lilarcor on May 5 2018, 08:59:22 PM wrote:best round so far
I'm getting curious for sebby's ratings. :whistling:
In every film there's gotta be something to hate. :D
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