World Cup, Season 3, Match 1F: Sweden vs Japan vs Turkey vs Lebanon

[joachimt]

This is match 1F of the third season of iCM Forum's Film World Cup.

Country	Original Title	English Title	Year	Manager	IMDB	ICM
Sweden	Ingeborg Holm	Margaret Day	1913	PeacefulAnarchy	link	link
Japan	Sanbiki no samurai	Three Outlaw Samurai	1964	monty	link	link
Turkey	Bulanti	Nausea	2015	XxXApathy420XxX	link	link
Lebanon	West Beyrouth (À l'abri les enfants)	West Beirut	1998	Armoreska	link	link

Screenshots

Ingeborg Holm


Sanbiki no samurai


Bulanti


West Beyrouth (À l'abri les enfants)

Voting Rules:
- You must watch all 4 films before you vote.
- To vote, rank the 4 films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)

Voting deadline = Apr 25th
Countdown till deadline

The countries that end at 1st and 2nd place proceed to the next round. The ranking of the match will be decided using these rules:
- Ranked by lowest average ranking.
- In case of a tie between two movies, head-to-head determines the winner (how many people thought A>B and how many thought B>A).
- In case there's still a tie after the previous rule or there is a tie between three or four movies, most #1-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? Fewest #4-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? The match will have a 3 day extension (except when the tie is only between #3 and #4).

Here's a quick summary of how the tournament works

We start with 48 films from 48 countries. Each country has a manager who determines which movie will be watched. In the first round the countries are divided into 12 groups of 4. From each group the countries that end up at #1 and #2 proceed to the next round. In the 2nd round the 24 remaining countries will be divided into 8 groups of 3. The managers pick a new movie. The winner of each group proceeds to the next round. The final 8 countries compete one-on-one in the quarter finals (with a new movie of course) and so on till the final.

iCM-list of all movies in this World Cup

List of all topics related to the World Cup including previous seasons

[monty]

Hehe, joachim, you really couldn't find a better sshot for my nom?

[Cocoa]

1. West Beyrouth (À l'abri les enfants) 8/10
2. Bulanti 6/10
3. Ingeborg Holm 4/10
4. Sanbiki no samurai 4/10

Not a great match for me. Japan is a country that I usually support throughout the World Cup, but I just can't in this match

[joachimt]

Hehe, joachim, you really couldn't find a better sshot for my nom?

Took one from the 720p-page on KG. The others were less interesting. The pics on the AVI and the 1080p are dead.
Feel free to promote it with better pics.

[Armoreska]

Ooh nice start for Lebanon. Though I have to warn, we don't have great depth on our bench.

[monty]

Hehe, joachim, you really couldn't find a better sshot for my nom?

Took one from the 720p-page on KG. The others were less interesting. The pics on the AVI and the 1080p are dead.
Feel free to promote it with better pics.

Feel free to use this pic then:

[joachimt]

Ooh nice start for Lebanon. Though I have to warn, we don't have great depth on our bench.

I've seen West Beyrouth and Ingeborg Holm before and so far Lebanon has my vote as well. But I still need to watch the other two.

[72aicm]

1. West Beyrouth (À l'abri les enfants)
2. Ingeborg Holm
3. Bulanti
4. Sanbiki no samurai

[joachimt]

That screenshot has a completely different AR, monty. Are you sure it's a screenshot?

[monty]

That screenshot has a completely different AR, monty. Are you sure it's a screenshot?

https://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/53281/t ... w-samurai/

[Armoreska]

Probably a publicity photo.
Shocking start for Japan.

Still I expect the most lopsided match.

[zuma]

That screenshot has a completely different AR, monty. Are you sure it's a screenshot?

https://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/53281/t ... w-samurai/

At the bottom of your linked page:

“NOTE: The above images were obtained directly from Criterion and do not represent Blu-Ray's native 1080p resolution”

[monty]

That screenshot has a completely different AR, monty. Are you sure it's a screenshot?

https://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/53281/t ... w-samurai/

At the bottom of your linked page:

“NOTE: The above images were obtained directly from Criterion and do not represent Blu-Ray's native 1080p resolution”

I don't see the other Cup films having 1080p sshots - is that a requirement?

[joachimt]

https://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/53281/t ... w-samurai/

At the bottom of your linked page:

“NOTE: The above images were obtained directly from Criterion and do not represent Blu-Ray's native 1080p resolution”

I don't see the other Cup films having 1080p sshots - is that a requirement?

No, but I do post screenshots of the movie.

[monty]

At the bottom of your linked page:

“NOTE: The above images were obtained directly from Criterion and do not represent Blu-Ray's native 1080p resolution”

I don't see the other Cup films having 1080p sshots - is that a requirement?

No, but I do post screenshots of the movie.

Let me dig up my DVD then.

[joachimt]

I don't see the other Cup films having 1080p sshots - is that a requirement?

No, but I do post screenshots of the movie.

Let me dig up my DVD then.

Is this better?

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[Armoreska]

Sure doesnt look like a 4/10. Anyway quit spoilin!

[joachimt]

Sure doesnt look like a 4/10. Anyway quit spoilin!

I edited my post. Put them in spoilertags.

[beavis]

Bulanti - 8,5
West Beyrouth (À l'abri les enfants) - 8
Sanbiki no samurai - 7
Ingeborg Holm - 6,5

[monty]

No, but I do post screenshots of the movie.

Let me dig up my DVD then.

Is this better?

Spoiler: click to toggle

Better but this is best - straight from the Criterion DVD:



More:

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[sebby]

I would think Lebanon and Sweden are the favorites this round, but the Japanese entry looks pretty good and has been languishing on my watchlist for some time. Can't say anything about Turkey as I'm unfamiliar with the film and director. Hopefully it'll be a nice surprise.

[monty]

Make sure to read the Criterion essay on the Japanese nom as well - it'll deepen your appreciation of the film.

[Pretentious Hipster]

Can't say anything about Turkey as I'm unfamiliar with the film and director. Hopefully it'll be a nice surprise.

Don't we have similar taste for the most part? I nominated it.

Anyways can't wait to lose.

[toro913]

1. Three Outlaw Samurai
2. West Beyrouth
3. Ingeborg Holm
4. Bulanti

[joachimt]

Anyways can't wait to lose.

Your goal wasn't to win anyway, right? You just wanted more people to see Bulanti.

[joachimt]

At least Bulanti has a fun start. Four voters and Bulanti has been on each rank one time already.

West Beyrouth (À l'abri les enfants): 1.5 (10-2)
Bulanti: 2.5 (6-6)
Ingeborg Holm: 3 (4-8)
Sanbiki no samurai: 3 (4-8)

[sebby]

Can't say anything about Turkey as I'm unfamiliar with the film and director. Hopefully it'll be a nice surprise.

Don't we have similar taste for the most part? I nominated it.

Anyways can't wait to lose.

Yeah I think there's some crossover in our taste for sure.

But you got dealt into a pretty tough round. On the plus side you get ~45 people watching a film with less than 100 checks. I picked Constans for a similar reason: love the film and it's woefully underseen, but I think there were probably a bunch of safer choices for Poland.

[Armoreska]

By the way this is one of the 3 rounds where every movie is official. Round 1B was however the only one where every movie is on a fairly permanent list.

[RogerTheMovieManiac88]

Looks to be a fascinating round. Haven't seen any of the four and am really looking forward to each one of them!

The screenshots for the Japanese entry look dazzling.

[Armoreska]

3 movies currently clashing for 2nd are almost exactly 50 (and 100) years apart! Actually 51 and 102.

Is that all for today's sudden stats?

[zuma]

01 - Bulanti

02 - Sanbiki no samurai

03 - Ingeborg Holm

04 - West Beyrouth

[Mario Gaborović]

1. Sanbiki no samurai
2. West Beyrouth (À l'abri les enfants)
3. Bulanti
4. Ingeborg Holm

[Pretentious Hipster]

1. Bulantı [Nausea] (2015)
2. Ingeborg Holm (1913)
3. 三匹の侍 [Three Outlaw Samurai] (1964)
4. بيروت الغربية [West Beirut] (1998)

[Armoreska]

I think that puts Bulanti in the lead. Havent seen it but that's a surprise considering it has the lowest IMDb rating.

[Pretentious Hipster]

I call bullshit for the screenshot choice for Nausea too. So many better choices

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[RBG]

1. bulanti
2. ingeborg holm
3. west beyrouth
4. three outlaw samurai

all films were good! however zeki is the best!

[jdidaco]

Another fine round, congratulations to the managers.

1. Ingeborg Holm
2. Bulanti
3. West Beyrouth (À l'abri les enfants)
4. Sanbiki no samurai

[Armoreska]

Sanbiki no Samurai 9(.5)/10 the best watch from world cups
West Beyrouth 7(.5)/10
Ingeborg Holm ~7/10
Bulanti 4(3.5)/10

[joachimt]

1. Sanbiki no samurai 8+
2. West Beyrouth 8-
3. Ingeborg Holm 7
4. Bulanti 6-

[Muellwind]

1. Sanbiki no samurai
2. Bulanti
3. West Beyrouth (À l'abri les enfants)
4. Ingeborg Holm