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#1324(⇧198, #1522) Predator (1987)
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#1325(NEW) Hai shang hua (1998)
[Flowers of Shanghai]

[海上花]
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kongs_speech wrote: April 8th, 2021, 5:50 pm
OldAle1 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 4:00 pm
Tim2460 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 3:57 pm #1298(NEW) The Bridges of Madison County (1995)
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Huge jump and highest ranking yet, I guess that's something. (l)
I have a specific beef with this movie. The Streep and Eastwood scenes are as beautifully made as anything in Clint's filmography. The other half of the movie, the present-day scenes with her annoying kids, absolutely sucks imo. I don't even know how to rate it.
Well, first of all the bookend scenes are only a very small fraction of the film - 10% of it maybe, 20 at most? So saying "half" is a gross misrepresentation. Second, I don't disagree in principal, and in fact I had much more significant problems with those scenes early on. Over time though they've come to grow on me a little bit and, I dunno, I think about them, and the movie a lot since my mom died - I often wondered if she had any great secret romances, but she never talked about that kind of stuff and I did get the impression there was someone maybe, before my dad, who got away. I wish I'd been willing to press her more about stuff like that, but it was tough, she felt like the whole 50 years she spent with my dad were a waste, and therefore her entire life had been a waste. It's... I dunno, the scenes aren't that "objectively" good, but for many reasons they feel more authentic and real and emotional to me now with every viewing, and I can forgive the awkwardness.

And I'm not the kind of viewer who tends to downgrade a film much for even a major flaw or two if the core worth of the film is high enough. I mean, Ryan Gosling can't sing, but look at what my #1 film is.
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Tim2460 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 6:08 pm #1324(⇧198, #1522) Predator (1987)
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Hmm, why is this not on my list? Probably my favorite American action film of it's era or for that matter the whole period after it. Another film to consider for next year.
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#1326(⇩379, #947) Dare mo shiranai (2004)
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#1327(⇧450, #1777) Utvandrarna (1971)
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#1328(NEW) Wendy and Lucy (2008)
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Tim2460 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 4:12 pm
Lammetje wrote: April 8th, 2021, 2:29 pm
Tim2460 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 12:50 pm #1261(⇧254, #1515) Small Roads (2011)

Plot: 0
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I have it on my watchlist : is it that bad ? :/
Lamm's not saying it's bad... there is literally no plot to the film. :)

I found it boring, others found it enthralling. YMMV (your mileage may vary). :shrug:
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Tim2460 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 6:18 pm #1326(⇩379, #947) Dare mo shiranai (2004)
[Nobody Knows]

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This was one of the last few films I saw before the deadline, and I'd been putting it off for almost a decade. I added it to the tail end of my list because I did quite enjoy it, but I felt letdown somewhat as I expected to absolutely love it. Still, I'm sad that it's tumbled out of the main list.
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OldAle1 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 6:15 pm
kongs_speech wrote: April 8th, 2021, 5:50 pm
OldAle1 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 4:00 pm

Huge jump and highest ranking yet, I guess that's something. (l)
I have a specific beef with this movie. The Streep and Eastwood scenes are as beautifully made as anything in Clint's filmography. The other half of the movie, the present-day scenes with her annoying kids, absolutely sucks imo. I don't even know how to rate it.
Well, first of all the bookend scenes are only a very small fraction of the film - 10% of it maybe, 20 at most? So saying "half" is a gross misrepresentation. Second, I don't disagree in principal, and in fact I had much more significant problems with those scenes early on. Over time though they've come to grow on me a little bit and, I dunno, I think about them, and the movie a lot since my mom died - I often wondered if she had any great secret romances, but she never talked about that kind of stuff and I did get the impression there was someone maybe, before my dad, who got away. I wish I'd been willing to press her more about stuff like that, but it was tough, she felt like the whole 50 years she spent with my dad were a waste, and therefore her entire life had been a waste. It's... I dunno, the scenes aren't that "objectively" good, but for many reasons they feel more authentic and real and emotional to me now with every viewing, and I can forgive the awkwardness.

And I'm not the kind of viewer who tends to downgrade a film much for even a major flaw or two if the core worth of the film is high enough. I mean, Ryan Gosling can't sing, but look at what my #1 film is.
I've only seen the film once. I didn't time it or anything, so maybe the scenes with Streep's kids only seemed longer because I hated them. I completely understand and respect your connection to the film. I can overlook flaws too, depending on how significant they are and how strongly I feel about the rest of the film. The lengthy sex scenes in Blue is the Warmest Color mess with the pacing and stand out in a negative way due to Abdellitaf Kechiche being later exposed as a creep, but the movie is so important to my identity that I dyed my hair blue to resemble the Lea Seydoux character. When it means that much to me, I can't not consider it one of my very favorite films, you know? So I definitely get your feelings towards Bridges and La La Land.
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#1329(⇧324, #1653) Phoenix (2014)
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#1330(⇧218, #1548) Irma Vep (1996)
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#1331(⇩216, #1115) Manbiki kazoku (2018)
[Shoplifters]

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#1332(⇧189, #1521) Sleeper (1973)
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#1333(⇧338, #1671) Wandafuru raifu (1998)
[After Life]

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#1334(⇩334, #1000) Siddeshwari (1990)
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#1335(⇧383, #1718) Thief (1981)
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Tim2460 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 6:58 pm #1334(⇩334, #1000) Siddeshwari (1990)
I'd like to see this. Very impressed by the two Kaul films I watched last week, especially Our Daily Bread.
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#1336(NEW) Le diable probablement (1977)
[The Devil; Probably]

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#1337(⇩385, #952) Burn After Reading (2008)
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#1338(⇩23, #1315) Die unendliche Geschichte (1984)
[The NeverEnding Story]

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#1339(⇧227, #1566) Hotel Rwanda (2004)
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#1340(⇧236, #1576) Strange Days (1995)
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#1341(⇧154, #1495) Menschen am Sonntag (1930)
[People on Sunday]

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Tim2460 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 12:21 pm
Lakigigar wrote: April 8th, 2021, 12:02 pm Also, i'll try to watch some Hsiao-Hsien Hou, but availability (and language barrier) is an issue, but since he literally does not have a movie in the top 1000 and is so close to cracking it, i feel a bit responsible for that. I'm also planning on watching Kar-wai Wong but i'm saying that a long time already, but sooner or later i'll. His style should suit me from what I've read. :)
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Oh yes that sounds pretty good, because it's mainly the aesthetics of my avatar that I like.

I'm just not sure what a good starting point is.
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Torgo wrote: April 7th, 2021, 8:11 pm Ahhh

Time again to remind us all of the worst Oscar snub in history: 2014, when both Song of the Sea and Princess Kaguya, two of the undeniably greatest animated features of the 21st century, were ignored to give the prize to Big Hero 6. :facepalm:
Oh yeah, thank you.

My two favourite animation movies (together with WolfWalkers).

But yes screw the Academy's. I don't care about them. And the BO-lists are perhaps even more list-worthy than the Academy's.
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#1342(⇧278, #1620) Columbus (2017)
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OldAle1 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 3:31 pm
outdoorcats wrote: April 8th, 2021, 3:22 pm Amazing work, Tim!

I also had no part in the HHH massacre - I've seen all of his features from 1993 onwards, and included at least several of his films. But I still haven't seen A City of Sadness, or most of his '80s output. Overall it would be nice if more of his films were widely available in better quality. He still wouldn't be for everyone, but he'd probably have quite a few more fans here. If Tarr and Diaz can get on the list then surely Hou can as well.

And Tim, no the reason Moulin Rouge! isn't ranked higher isn't because you forgot it. It's because it's actual torture and my personal least favorite film of all time for over 10 years now. Clearly everyone agreed to leave it off their lists for my sanity's sake. :P The experience of watching it was like going through that freaky tunnel in Willy Wonka...but for hours.

(Anyway, I joke around, but it was a seriously distressing experience for me)
Diaz isn't on the list though :(

As mentioned before I think part of it is that there is no one (or two) standout for Hou, like many other directors AND when you combine this with the relative unavailability of his films in quality editions and his general "difficult" and "slow" reputation... Tarr on the other hand has two films that really stand out in terms of critical rep and exposure, and Satantango just came out in a new BD which helps his overall exposure probably. Last time I looked only two of Diaz' films were available on DVD or BD at all, only erratic streaming availability, and with most of his films being very long, and Filipino cinema in general still underseen (there are no Filipino films on the list at all), it's not surprising that he fails to place. On the upside Raoul Ruiz is finally starting to get his due. These things take time - I remember when I was first on the IMDb forums hardly anybody was talking about Rivette or Robbe-Grillet, and very few films from either were widely available. Things have changed dramatically for them since 2005 so we can only hope similar forces are at work for some of our other still-below-the-radar faves.
Oh, I could have sworn I saw Evolution of a Filipino Family on the list or something. In the U.S. at least, a large chunk of Lav Diaz' films are streaming on Amazon Prime through Mubi.

The "no consensus standout" for Hou thing seems to make sense, as one user here mentioned Puppetmaster as the film that must surely be his most acclaimed, cinewest suggested Three Times, while for me my favorites are The Assassin, Goodbye South Goodbye, and Millennium Mambo (but Flight of the Red Balloon and Cafe Lumiere not far behind).

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#1343(⇧262, #1605) The Set-Up (1949)
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#1344(⇩147, #1197) Dao ma zei (1986)
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mightysparks wrote: April 1st, 2021, 11:45 am
Tim2460 wrote: April 1st, 2021, 9:27 am #824(NEW) From Dusk Till Dawn (1996)
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Happy to see the best horror film of all time back in the list.
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Tim2460 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 6:28 pm #1328(NEW) Wendy and Lucy (2008)
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This has never even cracked the top 1000? Weird. :shrug:

Do people not like it, or just haven't seen it, or...?

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Tim2460 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 7:33 am #1198(⇧481, #1679) Body Double (1984)
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This reminds me again how Body Double is on no official lists, and I’m surprised it hasn’t been one of the additions to the TSPDT 1,000 Noirs list, considering some of the crappier neo-noirs they’ve added to it lately.
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outdoorcats wrote: April 8th, 2021, 7:51 pm
Tim2460 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 6:28 pm #1328(NEW) Wendy and Lucy (2008)
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This has never even cracked the top 1000? Weird. :shrug:

Do people not like it, or just haven't seen it, or...?
I, too, wish the Reichardt mafia was more sizable around here...
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Lakigigar wrote: April 8th, 2021, 7:35 pm
Tim2460 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 12:21 pm
Lakigigar wrote: April 8th, 2021, 12:02 pm Also, i'll try to watch some Hsiao-Hsien Hou, but availability (and language barrier) is an issue, but since he literally does not have a movie in the top 1000 and is so close to cracking it, i feel a bit responsible for that. I'm also planning on watching Kar-wai Wong but i'm saying that a long time already, but sooner or later i'll. His style should suit me from what I've read. :)
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Oh yes that sounds pretty good, because it's mainly the aesthetics of my avatar that I like.

I'm just not sure what a good starting point is.
For WKW? In the Mood for Love, Chungking Express or Days of Being Wild.
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#1345(⇩220, #1125) The Draughtsman's Contract (1982)
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#1346(⇩133, #1213) San xia hao ren (2006)
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#1347(⇧70, #1417) Catch Me If You Can (2002)
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#1348(⇧79, #1427) Scanners (1981)
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#1349(NEW) On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
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