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#38 Fucking Åmål [Show Me Love] (1998) 824.27 points

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AssonFire (#109)
beavis (#36)
DudeLanez (#30)
Fergenaprido (#89)
Gordon_Gekko (#24)
Gorro (#15)
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Lakigigar (#11)
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#37 L'âge d'or (1930) 825.85 points

Debut of Luis Buñuel
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DudeLanez (#1)
Gorro (#82)
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Mysterious Dude (#54)
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#36 Nóz w wodzie [Knife in the Water] (1962) 827.44 points

Debut of Roman Polanski
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Caracortada (#11)
Fergenaprido (#97)
Gordon_Gekko (#79)
Gorro (#147)
hurluberlu (#28)
joachimt (#12)
Melvelet (#22)
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Panunzio (#129)
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#35 Synecdoche, New York (2008) 829.51 points

Debut of Charlie Kaufman
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hurluberlu (#1)
joachimt (unranked>45)
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monclivie (#10)
Obgeoff (#4)
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#34 La planète sauvage [Fantastic Planet] (1973) 859.72 points

Debut of René Laloux
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Gorro (#324)
hurluberlu (#4)
lineuphere (#116)
Melvelet (unranked>50)
Mifune (#54)
Mysterious Dude (#6)
Panunzio (#38)
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#33 This Is Spinal Tap (1984) 878.31 points

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Fergenaprido (#116)
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Gordon_Gekko (#39)
gromit82 (#6)
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joachimt (#26)
lineuphere (#93)
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#32 Night of the Living Dead (1968) 891.9 points

Debut of George A. Romero
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Mifune (#21)
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#31 American History X (1998) 938.3 points

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Lakigigar (#21)
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#30 Moon (2009) 941.19 points

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Mifune (#51)
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#29 Blood Simple (1984) 945.8 points

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Mifune (#15)
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Mysterious Dude (#49)
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Panunzio (#17)
peeptoad (unranked)
Smoover (#50)
sol (#82)
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#28 C'est arrivé près de chez vous [Man Bites Dog] (1992) 951.44 points

Debut of Rémy Belvaux & André Bonzel & Benoît Poelvoorde
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joachimt (#33)
Lakigigar (#26)
Lonewolf2003 (#91)
Mifune (#6)
Obgeoff (#54)
Onderhond (#38)
Panunzio (#20)
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#27 Shadows (1958) 975.18 points

Debut of John Cassavetes
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Gordon_Gekko (#88)
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joachimt (unranked>45)
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OldAle1 (#21)
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#26 Das Leben der Anderen [The Lives of Others] (2006) 1010.67 points

Debut of Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck
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I'm very surprised with the results so far, so many movies I expected a forum of teenagers to like - I don't say that in a dismissive way - but not iCM
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pitchorneirda wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 12:25 pm I'm very surprised with the results so far, so many movies I expected a forum of teenagers to like - I don't say that in a dismissive way - but not iCM
:lol: I thought of saying something similar but then thought better of it - but now that you broke the ice... yeah, I especially had a flashback to circa 2006 IMDb forums and the love for American History X there among the cool teenaged-boy set. Not that that film doesn't get a certain amount of critical acclaim from people outside of the high school-college range, but I wouldn't have expected it to rank as high as it does here, that's for sure.
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pitchorneirda wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 12:25 pm I don't say that in a dismissive way
Of course not :rolleyes:
We'll let you folks know when we've finally grown out of this shite.
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Torgo wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 2:39 pm Of course not :rolleyes:
We'll let you folks know when we've finally grown out of this shite.
You have to admit it's kinda funny to see all the vitrol re: Box Office lists, only to end up with a list that features films like Frozen, Shrek, Monsters Inc and The Lion King :whistling:
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I've never fully understood the high praise for Fucking Åmål, but hey.
Expected great ranks for the likes of Blood Simple & Synedoche, New York. Even better than expected for Carnival of Souls, Primer, La planète sauvage & Man Bites Dog :sweat:

That Koyaanisqatsi only landed really high on the lists of joachim, Gorro and mine surprises me. Perhaps a lack of participants from the docu screensaver mafia.
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Onderhond wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 2:43 pm You have to admit it's kinda funny to see all the vitrol re: Box Office lists, only to end up with a list that features films like Frozen, Shrek, Monsters Inc and The Lion King :whistling:
Well, better movies for kids than for teenagers - those are the worst!
But yeah, as pointed out, something is up with the animated features and the way directors may do their high profile feature debuts with them.
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Torgo wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 2:39 pm
pitchorneirda wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 12:25 pm I don't say that in a dismissive way
Of course not :rolleyes:
We'll let you folks know when we've finally grown out of this shite.
I swear that's true.
I think no movie in the top 100 is really bad (edit: OK, I admit I can't stand Gattaca) and I have even highly considered some of these when I first watched them (like American History X for example).

I'm just surprised in the sense that: show the list to anyone without the context, they'll think it has been made by some 20-year old boy, or more accurately some guy who was 20 years old in 2000 and is nostalgic about it, and that's a very different feeling than what I've experienced so far with our other lists
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Alright then, I'll take you up on that.

Speaking of the worst demographics, just behind teenagers and young adolescents of course come the self-opinionated 20-somethings, which makes us think of ..
Lonewolf2003 wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 4:12 am #49 Un homme qui dort [The Man Who Sleeps] (1974) 722.23 points

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Mysterious Dude (#98)
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St. Gloede (#10)
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.. interesting, this is the 3rd highest film on our ICM most favorited (weighted) list and been like that forever, I think it used to be 1st even for a while? Still, in a poll aimed on debuts alone, it barely enters the Top 50.
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[ninja edit]lol I swear I haven't seen it's your #6, pitch :D Not in any way meant as a counter on AHX, I have a high opinion of this film, too.
Thought of it more as a typical, more grown-up and kinda artsy / philosophical entry-level fodder for cinephiles - something I will never glance down at.
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Torgo wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 3:28 pm [ninja edit]lol I swear I haven't seen it's your #6, pitch :D Not in any way meant as a counter on AHX, I have a high opinion of this film, too.
Thought of it more as a typical, more grown-up and kinda artsy / philosophical entry-level fodder for cinephiles - something I will never glance down at.
Hehe you would have been right to use it as a counter. I agree with everything you said about "Un homme qui dort" but I can't help loving it: it's special to me because I dropped out of college and it showed exactly what I had been feeling at the time and the film was also kind of an excuse like "you see, I'm dropping out but there's a movie that explains everything about my decision and as I'm not the only one to feel this way then it's totally OK to do so".
But unlike other movies, it has also stood up the test of time because of the philosophical fodder you mentioned: Georges Perec remains one my favourite writers.
But yeah it has the typical "twenty-something" label all over it and it's finally only a 8/10 in my books, still enough to be in my all-time top 100
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Okay, let's continue with this list by guys who were 20 years old in 2000 and is nostalgic about it
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#25 The Maltese Falcon (1941) 1012.84 points

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Ah yes, The Maltese Falcon, that mid-2000s dorm-room staple.
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Dude I was so wasted when I saw that one. Is it the one with the sled?
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#24 El espíritu de la colmena [The Spirit of the Beehive] (1973) 1020.88 points

Debut of Víctor Erice
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#23 Pi (1998) 1022.8 points

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#22 The Wicker Man (1973) 1029.29 points

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#21 Pâfekuto burû [Perfect Blue] (1997) 1031.98 points

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#20 Get Out (2017) 1050.56 points

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#19 The Kid (1921) 1122.33 points

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#18 Donnie Darko (2001) 1143.86 points

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Lonewolf2003 wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 12:30 am #18 Donnie Darko (2001) 1143.86 points

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Jimi Antiloop (#2)
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:o
No kidding, the demographics here do kind of interest me ..


Also, Get Out (2017) did hardly get spectacular high votes (1-digit), but a damn lot of #20ish ones. Whatever that might say. (It's an awesome film, maybe that?)
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#17 Nightcrawler (2014) 1170.54 points

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#16 American Beauty (1999) 1201.81 points

Debut of Sam Mendes
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#15 The Night of the Hunter (1955) 1299.37 points

Debut of Charles Laughton
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#14 Pather Panchali (1955) 1317.15 points

Debut of Satyajit Ray
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#13 Ex Machina (2014) 1322.13 points

Debut of Alex Garland
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#12 Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975) 1333.73 points

Debut of Terry Jones & Terry Gilliam
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