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Doubling the Canon 2021 Update - Phase II: Ratings

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Dang! Did I miss this years nomination deadline?
There wouldn't be any chance to sneak in my nominations now, would there?
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Not counting on this, at all, as I messed up and overlooked the deadline, but in case there is a chance to sneak them in, here are my nominations (or those that would have been my nominations):

Titles:
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L'amant double
Bait
La fille inconnue
Skepp till India land
Koko-di koko-da
Kundskabens træ

Naissance des pieuvres
The Other Side 

Pushwagner
Tom à la ferme
Starlet
Vox Lux

All cross-checked with the second draft of the ballot
IMDb links:
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Labraxas wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 8:43 pm Not counting on this, at all, as I messed up and overlooked the deadline, but in case there is a chance to sneak them in, here are my nominations (or those that would have been my nominations):
Okay, the imdb list has not been updated yet and veteran doublers must have some privileges after all.
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Angel Glez wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 9:02 pm
Labraxas wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 8:43 pm Not counting on this, at all, as I messed up and overlooked the deadline, but in case there is a chance to sneak them in, here are my nominations (or those that would have been my nominations):
Okay, the imdb list has not been updated yet and veteran doublers must have some privileges after all.
Wow, thank you so much for this!
(Haha, hadn't realized I was at something to be considered a veteran yet, but it's been quite some years, I now realized. Time is a weird one.)
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Hi, all.

Here is an updated link to the list of the 2021 DtC nominees for any Criticker users hereabout.

:)
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Call for ratings: Final phase of the DtC 2021 update!

Thank you very much for your participation in the first phase. In this second and final phase we invite all doublers (whether you nominated films in the first phase or not; everyone is welcome to vote) to rate the nominated films. Thank you once again for your enthusiastic response.
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Current recommendation: Monday (2000)


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Angel Glez wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 10:22 am Call for ratings: Final phase of the DtC 2021 update!

Thank you very much for your participation in the first phase. In this second and final phase we invite all doublers (whether you nominated films in the first phase or not; everyone is welcome to vote) to rate the nominated films. Thank you once again for your enthusiastic response.
Nice, "deadline" is 26.4. + usually it takes a couple of days before the first results are posted (?) so there will be practically no need to plan next month's DtC nominee challenges by alphabet :)
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Melvelet wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 10:38 am Were really both of them nominated?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058269/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4453310/
By Ivan0716. It's one film split in two parts so it's a single nomination.
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Melvelet wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 10:40 am
Angel Glez wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 10:22 am Call for ratings: Final phase of the DtC 2021 update!

Thank you very much for your participation in the first phase. In this second and final phase we invite all doublers (whether you nominated films in the first phase or not; everyone is welcome to vote) to rate the nominated films. Thank you once again for your enthusiastic response.
Nice, "deadline" is 26.4. + usually it takes a couple of days before the first results are posted (?) so there will be practically no need to plan next month's DtC nominee challenges by alphabet :)
This year it will take longer because the new formula must be implemented and the list completely reordered. :sweat:
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Entered my ballot.

0: 24 entries
1: 18 entries
2: 17 entries
3: 36 entries
4: 37 entries
5: 18 entries
6: 35 entries

For a total of 185 entries. Doesn't look too bad.
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Since you usually tend to prefer it, I have submitted an 'early in the proceedings' ballot (by email).

I'm sure I will see a lot more with next month's Official Challenge (thanks again for being flexible with the April deadline).

I will send write-in votes into you in batches (maybe 5 or 10 at a time) to avoid having to send you a private message 3 or more times a day. :unsure:

My Breakdown of Votes

0 = 20 films
1 = 25 films
2 = 73 films
3 = 95 films
4 = 49 films
5 = 45 films
6 = 42 films

Voted on 349 films in total; mean vote: 3.23

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Last year (2020) was 430 films in total; mean vote: 3.40

Year before that (2019) was 349 films in total; mean vote: 3.20

Year before that (2018) was 273 films in total; mean vote: 3.51

Year before that (2017) was 392 films in total; mean vote: 3.06

Year before that (2016) was 459 films in total; mean vote: 2.81

Year before that (2015) was 325 films in total; mean vote: 3.04

Year before that (2014) was 330 films in total; mean vote: 3.43

Year before that (2013) was 263 films in total; mean vote: 3.17

Year before that (2012) was 231 films in total; mean vote: 3.03

Year before that (2011) was 222 films in total; mean vote: 3.38

Year before that (2010) was 137 films in total; mean vote: 3.72
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Angel Glez wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 12:05 pm Second draft of the ballot:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
So this is the final version? I worked on the first draft, and now it's partially wasted time.
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I just send in my ballot
Noticed there are movies on the ballot that are not in the ICM list by Hunziker (572/1165 checks -> rated 578), so there might be one or two others I've failed to spot now...

breakdown:
rank - votes - percentage
6 - 49 - 8
5 - 91 - 16
4 - 112 - 19
3 - 142 - 25
2 - 76 - 13
1 - 91 - 16
0 - 17 - 3

I expect to see 40 to 60 movies for the challenge, will send in my additional votes at the end of next month!
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Done with the ratings - 203 movies, 3,15 mean rating.

0 = 6 films
1 = 15 films
2 = 16 films
3 = 108 films
4 = 35 films
5 = 10 films
6 = 13 films
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beavis wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 1:03 pm Noticed there are movies on the ballot that are not in the ICM list by Hunziker (572/1165 checks -> rated 578), so there might be one or two others I've failed to spot now...
Yes - the Hunziker ballot is missing the 12 late submissions from Labraxas.

Like you, I used the iCM list as a reference point, so I have made note of the Labraxas films that I did not rate and I will submit ratings for them in my first write-in ballot.
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sol wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 1:46 pm
beavis wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 1:03 pm Noticed there are movies on the ballot that are not in the ICM list by Hunziker (572/1165 checks -> rated 578), so there might be one or two others I've failed to spot now...
Yes - the Hunziker ballot is missing the 12 late submissions from Labraxas.

Like you, I used the iCM list as a reference point, so I have made note of the Labraxas films that I did not rate and I will submit ratings for them in my first write-in ballot.
That's it indeed, thanks!
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Ebbywebby wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 12:54 pm
Angel Glez wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 12:05 pm Second draft of the ballot:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
So this is the final version? I worked on the first draft, and now it's partially wasted time.
Now It's the third and final version. :P
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Thanks for including IMDb-urls in a separate column in the spreadsheet. Makes it a lot easier to use formulas to put IMDb-ratings next to titles. I don't want to rate one by one.
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lineuphere wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 11:08 pm Hi, all.

Here is an updated link to the list of the 2021 DtC nominees for any Criticker users hereabout.

:)
Thanks!
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lineuphere wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 11:08 pm Hi, all.

Here is an updated link to the list of the 2021 DtC nominees for any Criticker users hereabout.

:)
Thanks for making this list, lineuphere! I've never really looked at Criticker before but this is a nice, accessible collection of titles that I've enjoyed flicking through over recent days. I'm sure it'll be helpful next month, in selecting titles to view!
That's all, folks!
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Angel Glez wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 10:49 am
Melvelet wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 10:40 am
Angel Glez wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 10:22 am Call for ratings: Final phase of the DtC 2021 update!

Thank you very much for your participation in the first phase. In this second and final phase we invite all doublers (whether you nominated films in the first phase or not; everyone is welcome to vote) to rate the nominated films. Thank you once again for your enthusiastic response.
Nice, "deadline" is 26.4. + usually it takes a couple of days before the first results are posted (?) so there will be practically no need to plan next month's DtC nominee challenges by alphabet :)
This year it will take longer because the new formula must be implemented and the list completely reordered. :sweat:
So we still rate on the same scale and that scale still means the same thing as previous years? I still don't understand the new formula.
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damnit, I missed the deadline, I sort of expected it to be a lot longer.
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I just sent in my initial ballot. Oddly this is the first time I've ever actually voted in DTC. Hopefully I did it correctly.

Question on this "write-in" ballot update process. Since I plan to watch a bunch of DTC nominees next month, I'll be sending in an update with additional ratings before the end of March. What exactly is the format for that? Just take the original sheet I just filled out and add the additional ratings? Only submit the net new ratings and exclude the ones I've already sent in?
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I'll find some things to freshly watch but, at this point, I have exactly 300 films to vote for. :)
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Fergenaprido wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 7:40 pm
Angel Glez wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 10:49 am
Melvelet wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 10:40 am

Nice, "deadline" is 26.4. + usually it takes a couple of days before the first results are posted (?) so there will be practically no need to plan next month's DtC nominee challenges by alphabet :)
This year it will take longer because the new formula must be implemented and the list completely reordered. :sweat:
So we still rate on the same scale and that scale still means the same thing as previous years? I still don't understand the new formula.
Nobody knows how things will turn out, but it's just an adjustment and not a complete reorientation. A film with a rating of 4 will still make the cut whereas a film with a rating of 3 will not.
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flavo5000 wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 8:32 pm Question on this "write-in" ballot update process. Since I plan to watch a bunch of DTC nominees next month, I'll be sending in an update with additional ratings before the end of March. What exactly is the format for that? Just take the original sheet I just filled out and add the additional ratings? Only submit the net new ratings and exclude the ones I've already sent in?
As you wish, but if you plan to see A LOT OF films I prefer an updated sheet with all the ratings (so that I just have to copy and paste the column).
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monclivie wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 6:37 pm
lineuphere wrote: March 22nd, 2021, 11:08 pm Hi, all.

Here is an updated link to the list of the 2021 DtC nominees for any Criticker users hereabout.

:)
Thanks!
Sure thing.
RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote: March 23rd, 2021, 6:55 pm
Thanks for making this list, lineuphere! I've never really looked at Criticker before but this is a nice, accessible collection of titles that I've enjoyed flicking through over recent days. I'm sure it'll be helpful next month, in selecting titles to view!
My pleasure.
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The link for 'Double Lover' is doubled in the Doubling the Canon ballot, and I'm not just seeing double. More precisely, Bait (2019, Mark Jenkin) links to L'amant double in the ballot and probably due to that is missing in Hunziker's IMDb and iCM lists.
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I've sent in my ballot.
Films rated = 150 (12.7%)
Average rating = 2.967

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Perception de Ambiguity wrote: March 24th, 2021, 10:27 am The link for 'Double Lover' is doubled in the Doubling the Canon ballot, and I'm not just seeing double. More precisely, Bait (2019, Mark Jenkin) links to L'amant double in the ballot and probably due to that is missing in Hunziker's IMDb and iCM lists.
Thanks for letting me know. Fixed.
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Angel Glez wrote: March 24th, 2021, 11:59 am
Perception de Ambiguity wrote: March 24th, 2021, 10:27 am The link for 'Double Lover' is doubled in the Doubling the Canon ballot, and I'm not just seeing double. More precisely, Bait (2019, Mark Jenkin) links to L'amant double in the ballot and probably due to that is missing in Hunziker's IMDb and iCM lists.
Thanks for letting me know. Fixed.
I hope voters above didn't use the IMDb-urls to vote.
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My lists should be fixed now, sorry for the inconvenience.
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Wow, I thought I was softballing it but looks like I outright nix'd a bigger percentage than anyone so far...

0 - 29
1 - 10
2 - 7
3 - 15
4 - 21
5 - 20
6 - 20

Lots of obscure films that deserve a place among the most classic of classics by my reckoning, and lots of run-of-the-mill grist and dry runs for better work that imo don't belong anywhere near an all-time canon.
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I've submitted my ballot, a total of 261 ratings so far with a mean of 3.37. Last year I reached 293 ratings so I'm hoping to get close to that number again or maybe even surpass it during the forthcoming Dtc challenge.

Breakdown of ratings:

6 = 47
5 = 29
4 = 42
3 = 37
2 = 76
1 = 23
0 = 7
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ChrisReynolds wrote: March 24th, 2021, 11:47 am I've sent in my ballot.
Films rated = 150 (12.7%)
Average rating = 2.967

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hehe, did you only give 6s to your own nominations :blink:
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matthewscott8 wrote: March 25th, 2021, 10:32 am hehe, did you only give 6s to your own nominations :blink:
Would have made sense, but no, only 3 of those 12 are my own nominations. I'm just quite strict with my ratings.

I gave more 6s in previous DtCs, but a lot of those have now been covered by the TSPDT 1001-2000.
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It looks like the IMDb-list isn't entirely synched to the ballot yet. Gave me a slight headache when exporting my ratings.

From what I could spot:
- Stemple Pass is missing.
- L'amant double, My Dog Tulip and Tom à la ferme are off alphabetically.
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Cannot help but feel responsibility for some of these URL-issues, as a couple of my very overdue nominees keeps being mentioned.
Please do tell me if there is some sort of re-checking or problem solving I can help with, to solve these issues.
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Labraxas wrote: March 25th, 2021, 5:14 pm Cannot help but feel responsibility for some of these URL-issues, as a couple of my very overdue nominees keeps being mentioned.
Please do tell me if there is some sort of re-checking or problem solving I can help with, to solve these issues.
It happens every year no matter how careful we are. I'm sure H will fix it soon.
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