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2 Monsters Inc. (2001) - There Will Be Blood (2007) 10
3 Unbreakable (2000) - Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004) 9
4 The Aviator (2004) - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 9
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3 Monsters Inc. (2001) - There Will Be Blood (2007) 10
4 Unbreakable (2000) - Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004) 9
4 The Aviator (2004) - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 10
7 The Bourne Identity (2002) - (500) Days of Summer (2009) 5

I currently have a higher concept of TWBB but I must be faithful to my original rating of Monsters Inc. (a 9 vs a 8)

I also don't like Unbreakable that much but found Anchormen almost unbearable.
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3 Monsters Inc. (2001) - There Will Be Blood (2007) 11
5 Unbreakable (2000) - Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004) 9
4 The Aviator (2004) - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 11
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3 Monsters Inc. (2001) - There Will Be Blood (2007) 11
5 Unbreakable (2000) - Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004) 9
4 The Aviator (2004) - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 11
7 The Bourne Identity (2002) - (500) Days of Summer (2009) 7

It's close though. I've seen better movies than (500) Days of Summer, esp. in it's genre, and it's a bit of a hipster elite film, but not really a fan of the Bourne Identity either. In fact, (500) Days of Summer would beat Fellowship of the Ring, Unbreakable and Monsters Inc. too despite only having a 6/10...
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TiRex wrote: February 14th, 2021, 10:06 am 3 Monsters Inc. (2001) - There Will Be Blood (2007) 10
4 Unbreakable (2000) - Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004) 9
4 The Aviator (2004) - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 10
7 The Bourne Identity (2002) - (500) Days of Summer (2009) 5

I currently have a higher concept of TWBB but I must be faithful to my original rating of Monsters Inc. (a 9 vs a 8)

I also don't like Unbreakable that much but found Anchormen almost unbearable.
Just vote according to your feeling, perceptions can change so you like TWBB more than Monsters Inc. Simple. Ratings are only ratings...

I have given movies 1/10 that I now sort of like. I think that's the case of Mother! and Swiss Army Men. The feeling i got during the film was confronting and unfamiliar. It wasn't enjoyable, but i've learnt to deal with that feeling. Sooner or later i'll rewatch them, but Mother! has 5/10 and Swiss Army Men 6/10. Movies also sometimes make a reversed direction. One example is Hard Candy. It was a thrilling movie i enjoyed but I hated the moral and only realized it later. I found it quite offensive. I gave it 9/10. One month later, it only has a 6/10. I suspect it's still too high.

A good movie is like a bottle of wine. Sometimes it needs to sink a bit before you realize the greatness. Sometimes it'll take years and multiple views. It's not exact science. Ratings do not reflect whether I like a movie or not. They just are temporary indicators that guide me, but aren't always accurate because it's impossible to transition a feeling to a number.
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Lakigigar wrote: February 14th, 2021, 2:37 pm
TiRex wrote: February 14th, 2021, 10:06 am 3 Monsters Inc. (2001) - There Will Be Blood (2007) 10
4 Unbreakable (2000) - Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004) 9
4 The Aviator (2004) - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 10
7 The Bourne Identity (2002) - (500) Days of Summer (2009) 5

I currently have a higher concept of TWBB but I must be faithful to my original rating of Monsters Inc. (a 9 vs a 8)

I also don't like Unbreakable that much but found Anchormen almost unbearable.
Just vote according to your feeling, perceptions can change so you like TWBB more than Monsters Inc. Simple. Ratings are only ratings...

I have given movies 1/10 that I now sort of like. I think that's the case of Mother! and Swiss Army Men. The feeling i got during the film was confronting and unfamiliar. It wasn't enjoyable, but i've learnt to deal with that feeling. Sooner or later i'll rewatch them, but Mother! has 5/10 and Swiss Army Men 6/10. Movies also sometimes make a reversed direction. One example is Hard Candy. It was a thrilling movie i enjoyed but I hated the moral and only realized it later. I found it quite offensive. I gave it 9/10. One month later, it only has a 6/10. I suspect it's still too high.

A good movie is like a bottle of wine. Sometimes it needs to sink a bit before you realize the greatness. Sometimes it'll take years and multiple views. It's not exact science. Ratings do not reflect whether I like a movie or not. They just are temporary indicators that guide me, but aren't always accurate because it's impossible to transition a feeling to a number.
Thank you very much for your insights, appreciate that and will consider it for future votes. :thumbsup:

I tend to get stuck to my original rating mostly because I don't rewatch movies that often (with so many unseen movies out there..)

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6 Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007) - Hot Fuzz (2007) 8
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Sad for Up which is one of my favourite Pixar animations (mostly for the famous 5-minute sequence) but glad that Hot Fuzz came around.
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Surprised Hotel Rwanda is doing so well here. Drive is intrinsically a million times better as a movie. The only thing Hotel Rwanda has is a touching, moving story that plays it far too safe, and I like a lot of other movies in this category more (like Lion). Drive is filmmaking at it's best, even though some userbases overrate it, but this one really underappreciate the art of NWR. And it's not like its competing with a well-acclaimed classic. It's competing against Hotel Rwanda. Wake up, people!
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Lakigigar wrote: February 15th, 2021, 9:09 pm Surprised Hotel Rwanda is doing so well here. Drive is intrinsically a million times better as a movie. The only thing Hotel Rwanda has is a touching, moving story that plays it far too safe, and I like a lot of other movies in this category more (like Lion). Drive is filmmaking at it's best, even though some userbases overrate it, but this one really underappreciate the art of NWR. And it's not like its competing with a well-acclaimed classic. It's competing against Hotel Rwanda. Wake up, people!
Well, that's just like your opinion man. Mine is that we VASTLY OVER-estimate Refn, and while Drive is the best of the three films I've seen from him, it's still not a film I'd want to see again. I actually forgot that I'd seen Hotel Rwanda and so didn't vote in that matchup; I have both films rated the same but might've picked the Refn just because I do remember it at least (though to be fair it came out years later and I saw both films once, new). But it certainly wouldn't fare well in most potential matchups to come for me, and I certainly have little interest in following his career any further. None of the films I've seen from him would even be in the top half of the films I've seen from their individual years.

But that's what makes this fun.
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3 Shaun of the Dead (2004) - American Psycho (2000) 3
4 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) - Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the... (2003) 4

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My post was skipped over by beasterne...so the totals now should be as follows:

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