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Lonewolf2003 wrote: March 13th, 2021, 9:57 pm

The following titles I will allow: (which means they aren't in the lists cause I have doubts about there eligibility, but that doubt is so big I will not consider them ineligible):
Jafar Panahi Badkonake sefid tt0112445
Paul F. Ryan Home Room tt0264689
Dean Covell The Wiggles Movie tt0128842
Ben Sharpsteen, Samuel Armstrong, etc Fantasia tt0032455
Just so you know The Wiggles Movie is a legit cinema released movie here in Australia. It was not a best of or anything but a unique story with all new stuff made for the movie, that is no previous content done. Think sort of like The Yellow Submarine. Though this all really matters in the full scheme of things.
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OK I have think I have finally finished my list completely. I took out the ones that were stated above that had creeped in and touched up the tale end of my list. If you don't mind checking it again for mistakes it would be appreciated and if I missed something I will happily fix it.

The following movies that are not in the OP lists that found a home at the bottom of my list are as follows and need to be added to them if allowed:
Steve Zacharias (nm0951599) - Revenge of the Nerds IV: Nerds in Love
Eric Heisserer (nm2104063) - Hours
Jenny Lu (nm4432273) - The Receptionist
Fernando Alle (nm3212646) - Mutant Blast
Paul Urkijo Alijo (nm4807465) - Errementari
Steven Trenbirth (nm0872045) - The Jungle Book 2
Michael Chaves (nm1980431) - The Curse of La Llorona
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Onderhond wrote: March 13th, 2021, 11:45 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote: March 13th, 2021, 11:13 pm delete ineligible titles
What'll happen if they're still there? And if it's scripted, is there even a point in making an effort to remove them?
They will be removed automatically. But removing them will decrease the changes in mistakes. Plus maybe someone wants to reorder their list after removing them, especially if it’s partially ranked.
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zzzorf wrote: March 14th, 2021, 2:57 am
Lonewolf2003 wrote: March 13th, 2021, 9:57 pm

The following titles I will allow: (which means they aren't in the lists cause I have doubts about there eligibility, but that doubt is so big I will not consider them ineligible):
Jafar Panahi Badkonake sefid tt0112445
Paul F. Ryan Home Room tt0264689
Dean Covell The Wiggles Movie tt0128842
Ben Sharpsteen, Samuel Armstrong, etc Fantasia tt0032455
Just so you know The Wiggles Movie is a legit cinema released movie here in Australia. It was not a best of or anything but a unique story with all new stuff made for the movie, that is no previous content done. Think sort of like The Yellow Submarine. Though this all really matters in the full scheme of things.
Didn’t know that, thanks. But my doubt more is about if any of the entries before should count instead or not.
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Lonewolf2003 wrote: March 14th, 2021, 10:35 am
zzzorf wrote: March 14th, 2021, 2:57 am
Lonewolf2003 wrote: March 13th, 2021, 9:57 pm

The following titles I will allow: (which means they aren't in the lists cause I have doubts about there eligibility, but that doubt is so big I will not consider them ineligible):
Jafar Panahi Badkonake sefid tt0112445
Paul F. Ryan Home Room tt0264689
Dean Covell The Wiggles Movie tt0128842
Ben Sharpsteen, Samuel Armstrong, etc Fantasia tt0032455
Just so you know The Wiggles Movie is a legit cinema released movie here in Australia. It was not a best of or anything but a unique story with all new stuff made for the movie, that is no previous content done. Think sort of like The Yellow Submarine. Though this all really matters in the full scheme of things.
Didn’t know that, thanks. But my doubt more is about if any of the entries before should count instead or not.
The stuff before were either live concerts or compilation videos (I.e. music video package). Either way I'm happy but those sort of things I believe don't count.
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I hate to be "that guy" but Jacques Tourneur's debut film was in 1931 in France https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022494/?r ... flmg_dr_75, not "Cat People".
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zzzorf wrote: March 14th, 2021, 11:18 am
Lonewolf2003 wrote: March 14th, 2021, 10:35 am
zzzorf wrote: March 14th, 2021, 2:57 am

Just so you know The Wiggles Movie is a legit cinema released movie here in Australia. It was not a best of or anything but a unique story with all new stuff made for the movie, that is no previous content done. Think sort of like The Yellow Submarine. Though this all really matters in the full scheme of things.
Didn’t know that, thanks. But my doubt more is about if any of the entries before should count instead or not.
The stuff before were either live concerts or compilation videos (I.e. music video package). Either way I'm happy but those sort of things I believe don't count.
Thanks. Than the movie really counts and I will add it to the list.
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RolandKirkSunglasses wrote: March 14th, 2021, 12:17 pm I hate to be "that guy" but Jacques Tourneur's debut film was in 1931 in France https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022494/?r ... flmg_dr_75, not "Cat People".
Thanks, I’m glad you’re that guy and pointed this out. You’re correct. Corrected it in the IMDb list.
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Totally forgot to submit mine, here it is: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls084874090/
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Poor Cow is listed as Ken Loach debut. But after seeing it, and mostly after reading up on Loach because of it, I discovered that he directed various "plays" for The Wednesday Play on tv before. Since those are like tv-movies they should count instead. The first he made was Tap on the Shoulder (1965), therefor that is Ken Loach's debut.
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zzzorf wrote: March 14th, 2021, 5:10 am OK I have think I have finally finished my list completely. I took out the ones that were stated above that had creeped in and touched up the tale end of my list. If you don't mind checking it again for mistakes it would be appreciated and if I missed something I will happily fix it.

The following movies that are not in the OP lists that found a home at the bottom of my list are as follows and need to be added to them if allowed:
Steve Zacharias (nm0951599) - Revenge of the Nerds IV: Nerds in Love
Eric Heisserer (nm2104063) - Hours
Jenny Lu (nm4432273) - The Receptionist
Fernando Alle (nm3212646) - Mutant Blast
Paul Urkijo Alijo (nm4807465) - Errementari
Steven Trenbirth (nm0872045) - The Jungle Book 2
Michael Chaves (nm1980431) - The Curse of La Llorona
These all check out. Added them.
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Lonewolf2003 wrote: March 13th, 2021, 11:13 pm Okay, listen carefully cause the proces is a bit different than normal.

- Until Wednesday everybody can still make an argued case why a title should or shouldn't count.
- Until Wednesday everybody can still adjust their list (delete ineligible titles, add more titles, re-order etc),
- Until Wednesday I will also still accept new lists!,
- BUT when calculating the results Wednesday I will consider every title not in the OP lists (+ the 4 "allowed" titles above) ineligible! (I will not research the eligibility again of all nominated titles.)
- Everyone can post titles here that should be added to the OP lists until then. (Please provide an IMDb link. If it's not instantly clear from a directors filmography on IMDb that said title is the debut, state why it is a debut feature.) So if you add a title to your list, that's not in the OP list, post it here or it will be considered ineligible Wednesday.

So - when will the voting booths close?
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Torgo wrote: March 17th, 2021, 3:27 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote: March 13th, 2021, 11:13 pm Okay, listen carefully cause the proces is a bit different than normal.

- Until Wednesday everybody can still make an argued case why a title should or shouldn't count.
- Until Wednesday everybody can still adjust their list (delete ineligible titles, add more titles, re-order etc),
- Until Wednesday I will also still accept new lists!,
- BUT when calculating the results Wednesday I will consider every title not in the OP lists (+ the 4 "allowed" titles above) ineligible! (I will not research the eligibility again of all nominated titles.)
- Everyone can post titles here that should be added to the OP lists until then. (Please provide an IMDb link. If it's not instantly clear from a directors filmography on IMDb that said title is the debut, state why it is a debut feature.) So if you add a title to your list, that's not in the OP list, post it here or it will be considered ineligible Wednesday.

So - when will the voting booths close?
NOW!
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Going to download all lists now.
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There's at least one (Cat People) still on my list that is ineligible... fyi if you dl everything already.
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peeptoad wrote: March 18th, 2021, 9:28 am There's at least one (Cat People) still on my list that is ineligible... fyi if you dl everything already.
Thanks for the notification. The program luckily removes all ineligible movies automatically from the lists.
Downloaded all lists already. I hope to start the result threads tonight or tomorrow.
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