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Ebbywebby wrote: March 19th, 2021, 7:56 pm
OldAle1 wrote: March 19th, 2021, 5:59 pm I did think of one list that I like a lot eventually though - Screening Boredom: The History and Aesthetics of Slow Cinema
You may have missed that I suggested this one too.
Yup, glossed over that, sorry. Great minds think alike and all that. I'm surprised actually that I've seen over 100 films on that list - much as I tend to like this stuff I can't really watch it that often.
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Even I have seen 73. Then again, it looks like at least half of Tsai/Hou's oeuvres are on there.

Would be a cool double bill though. One slow cinema list, one maximalist list :)
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OldAle1 wrote: March 19th, 2021, 9:39 pm
Ebbywebby wrote: March 19th, 2021, 7:56 pm
OldAle1 wrote: March 19th, 2021, 5:59 pm I did think of one list that I like a lot eventually though - Screening Boredom: The History and Aesthetics of Slow Cinema
You may have missed that I suggested this one too.
Yup, glossed over that, sorry. Great minds think alike and all that. I'm surprised actually that I've seen over 100 films on that list - much as I tend to like this stuff I can't really watch it that often.
I'm at 82. I've never directly "worked on" that list, but maybe I should. About 25 films have been on my radar to see (including three that are explicitly on my watchlist), but scanning the titles makes me realize that I've never even looked up many of them
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Onderhond wrote: March 19th, 2021, 10:10 pm Even I have seen 73. Then again, it looks like at least half of Tsai/Hou's oeuvres are on there.

Would be a cool double bill though. One slow cinema list, one maximalist list :)
Exactly 73 too :turned:

That double officialization idea is pretty rad. :D

Torgo wrote: March 19th, 2021, 6:35 pm
OldAle1 wrote: March 19th, 2021, 5:59 pm it sort of gets at one of the things that I think is missing overall from officialdom - that is mood or style, which admittedly are much harder to quantify than genre, country, or awards. The film noir lists are really the only things that come close, but noir is as much a genre, crime drama, as a style for most people - and for the lists. It would be nice if we could find a place for an idea like slow cinema - or the "maximalist cinema" idea proposed by Onderhond - or other things along these lines.
about just how the films are. We could need more lists with such an approach

Totally forgot to make the point I was going for with my post <_<
Remember the poll where we decided on which poll to do next (ICM gonna meta again like that)? The one were "sad/depressing films" tanked. Yup, that was one I was eager to do again. Sure wouldn't be more all over the place than directorial debuts. We have enough "Movies to see before you die" - gimme "Movies to see to make you cry"!
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I'm at 217/257 and really like this mode of filmmaking, still think the list is not good. I suggested the Grunes critic list as an option to cover this subject, but it also needs a more recent list...
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Mark Cousin's Women Make Film: A New Road Movie Through Cinema
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Yale Film Studies Canon
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I wouldn't be able to do it. I can pick 100 maybe.

Hugo Awards: Best Dramatic Presentation (noms)
Blacklist 500 Feminist, or any shorter list really
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We should totally have the Chantal Akerman list tbh.
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I may be a bit cheeky and suggest multiple lists in the form of the Taschen decade lists. I know there has been a lot of discussion on them, and honestly I'm still shocked they've not become official. Especially considering we still lack proper decade lists...

Also the forum's top 1001. I still think it's the best overall list, catering to a wide variety of tastes. Plus it's updated every year, so it's always current. I think I heard that it wasn't going to be adopted though, so in that case...

Picking another list with the possibility of adoption. The Sight & Sound end of year lists! It'd be nice to give a good boost to recent cinema, and it provides a good complement/counterbalance to the Cahiers du Cinema annual lists.
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Annecy Festival's Best Feature Film (animated, obviously)
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/anne ... m/max-scl/

FEMIS - Les 208 Films qu'il faut avoir vu (FEMIS 208 must-see movies)
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/femi ... +vu/remyg/

La FEMIS is probably the best film school in Europe, it would be a nice "generalistic" list that is not Anglo-Saxon for once. I think it's only one film per director.

(Work in progress) Les Comédies à la Française - 250 films incontournables du cinéma comique français) (250 must-see French comedies)
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/les+ ... /kirigrap/

A list of French comedies, based on a book published in 2011. I don't have the full list yet. I've ordered the book and should be able to complete it next month.
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Didn't know that FEMIS list yet, looks like a nice allround cinephile list with a strong French core to it. Not sure if it's ranked? Or how it was made (by Alain Bergala on his own? If they are his favorites, it could fit as a critic list on icm, if not it is more difficult to see where it fits at the moment), but i like it.
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beavis wrote: April 15th, 2021, 5:06 pm Didn't know that FEMIS list yet, looks like a nice allround cinephile list with a strong French core to it. Not sure if it's ranked? Or how it was made (by Alain Bergala on his own? If they are his favorites, it could fit as a critic list on icm, if not it is more difficult to see where it fits at the moment), but i like it.
It's probably ordered by alphabetical order of the director's name. But yes it was made by Alain Bergala on his own, as far as I know.
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Sleazoid Express and the slow cinema one from earlier.
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pitchorneirda wrote: April 15th, 2021, 4:52 pm La FEMIS is probably the best film school in Europe, it would be a nice "generalistic" list that is not Anglo-Saxon for once. I think it's only one film per director.
That list was already on ICM: Alain Bergala's "The 208 Films That You Must Have Seen"

beavis wrote: April 15th, 2021, 5:06 pm Didn't know that FEMIS list yet, looks like a nice allround cinephile list with a strong French core to it. Not sure if it's ranked? Or how it was made (by Alain Bergala on his own? If they are his favorites, it could fit as a critic list on icm, if not it is more difficult to see where it fits at the moment), but i like it.
"This list was compiled by French film critic and historian Alain Bergala, which he distributes to students upon their orientation at the Paris Film Academy, La Fémis. This version of his list was handed out in 2010. The list is not a compilation of the best films nor the most important ones, but was designed merely as a starting point for prospective filmmakers and students to learn about the history of cinema. One film a week for the duration of their four-year program."


Personally, I would prefer something like Mad Movies's 300 films à voir avant de mourir
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dirty_score wrote: April 15th, 2021, 6:10 pm
pitchorneirda wrote: April 15th, 2021, 4:52 pm La FEMIS is probably the best film school in Europe, it would be a nice "generalistic" list that is not Anglo-Saxon for once. I think it's only one film per director.
That list was already on ICM: Alain Bergala's "The 208 Films That You Must Have Seen"
I didn't create the list I gave. But it's good there's another version with an English description.
dirty_score wrote: April 15th, 2021, 6:10 pm Personally, I would prefer something like Mad Movies's 300 films à voir avant de mourir
Not a bad list, but it should say in the title that it's 300 horror films you must see before you die :rolleyes:
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beavis wrote: April 15th, 2021, 5:06 pm Didn't know that FEMIS list yet, looks like a nice allround cinephile list with a strong French core to it. Not sure if it's ranked? Or how it was made (by Alain Bergala on his own? If they are his favorites, it could fit as a critic list on icm, if not it is more difficult to see where it fits at the moment), but i like it.
I believe this is the source: https://www.femis.fr/IMG/pdf/liste_des_ ... _2008_.pdf

Maybe a mod could add that to the page? I'm going to keep a copy of the PDF since I too think it's a very interesting list. I believe it is alpha sorted by surname.
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xianjiro wrote: April 15th, 2021, 9:08 pm I believe this is the source: https://www.femis.fr/IMG/pdf/liste_des_ ... _2008_.pdf
Thanks!
I need to sleep soon, but I'm going to google translate this doc so I can read it tomorrow ;)
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pitchorneirda wrote: April 15th, 2021, 8:14 pm Not a bad list, but it should say in the title that it's 300 horror films you must see before you die :rolleyes:
It does focus on other genres too

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