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The quest to rescue the IMDb lists

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pitchorneirda wrote: February 25th, 2021, 9:01 pm https://www.imdb.com/list/ls089640142/

Can somebody have access to my list?
I'm 100% sure I've set the privacy settings to "Public" but it doesn't work if I'm not connected...
Anybody aware of this issue?
Nope. Says it's private to me.
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OldAle1 wrote: February 25th, 2021, 8:48 pm
xianjiro wrote: February 25th, 2021, 8:43 pm
Torgo wrote: February 25th, 2021, 4:46 pm

While you are correct and we still remember the misogynistic attacks on Captain Marvel (still 6% 1-star ratings) or how Black Panther got relatively many 1-star votes, the Cuties case is extreme. A not too audacious Cahiers-type of film which usually would score somewhere between 6.3 and 7.5 (my wild guess) bombed town to 3.0 - never seen that before.

Regarding the marketing effect .. might be true, you never know :)
Wish I could remember the name of the Indian film that was similarly targeted by Bangladeshi "patriots" so we could add it to the list. If I can remember it, I'll post.
I believe you're thinking of Gunday, #36 on the Bottom 100.

I've said it before, and I won't go into it in any great deal at this time (unless someone else wants to), but it's shit like this that makes me not respect IMDb lists at all. There is very little integrity to the ratings, particularly when it comes to anything recent with a lot of press, good or bad.
Yup, absolutely! I didn't think to look at that list even though I brought it iCM. d'oh!

82% are 1 star though Top 1000 voters only give 28% 1 star and they traditionally are harder on most movies than the 'average' user. On top of that, there are almost 900 reviews many (most?) like this:
[ 1/10
Wrong information
mukut-4572527 July 2019
They exhibit wrong information in their movie, they said '71 war was betweens India and Pakistan but it's totally wrong. It was between India nd Bangla join force vs Pakistan army.
btw, the offending "wrong information" is in the prologue if I remember correctly and has little bearing on the overall film.

I've seen Gunday, but it's been quite a lot of movies ago. I gave it a 5/10 as an honest rating.

As I remember, we tried to get IMDb to address this on (don't)GetSatisfaction to no avail. And given that review is dated 2019, I'm guessing that the bots are still hard at work. They even seem a bit more sophisticated now.

Anyway, I'd call this as bad as Cuties, but these are the only two examples I'm aware of.
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Fergenaprido wrote: February 25th, 2021, 9:06 pm
pitchorneirda wrote: February 25th, 2021, 9:01 pm https://www.imdb.com/list/ls089640142/

Can somebody have access to my list?
I'm 100% sure I've set the privacy settings to "Public" but it doesn't work if I'm not connected...
Anybody aware of this issue?
Nope. Says it's private to me.
same for me as well
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"This list is not public", indeed
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This is driving me crazy
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pitchorneirda wrote: February 25th, 2021, 9:44 pm This is driving me crazy
how can I help? I've got IMDb open ...
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xianjiro wrote: February 25th, 2021, 10:05 pm
pitchorneirda wrote: February 25th, 2021, 9:44 pm This is driving me crazy
how can I help? I've got IMDb open ...
Don't worry, I bypassed the problem, thanks anyway
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pitchorneirda wrote: February 25th, 2021, 10:25 pm
xianjiro wrote: February 25th, 2021, 10:05 pm
pitchorneirda wrote: February 25th, 2021, 9:44 pm This is driving me crazy
how can I help? I've got IMDb open ...
Don't worry, I bypassed the problem, thanks anyway
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Ah - spotted another one. Dil Bechara (2020) is odd: stumbled upon it as part of the Top 1000, which start at a rating of 7.6, and the film has a displayed 6.6 - huh? At the same time, arithmetic mean is 9.3 (at 112,000 votes!), 84% of the ratings are a perfect 10/10. Top 1000 voters give it 5.5. :ermm:

It's an Indian remake of The Fault in Our Stars (2014), by the way.
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I think we discussed this a few months ago. It was released shortly after the male lead committed suicide, which his fans largely attribute to nepotism in Bollywood. That's an oversimplification, I know, but this film was upvoted a lot while some other contemporary films starring/produced by those perceived to have benefitted from the nepotism at the expense of others were downvoted (I think).
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Well at least IMDb did something about it. If what Ferg says is a complete picture - ie: real fans over-voting - I have to wonder why IMDb cares to "adjust" this but ignore films which have been impacted by bots. And over 7700 reviews! That's pretty incredible. But this suggests IMDb cares more about correcting the upside.

It's still pretty amazing that it made the I Top 250 with such numbers.

IDK, I think I blame what has become of the Internet more than anything.
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Another brigaded movie is this Brazilian one, which is an official check: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7825208/
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Gorro wrote: February 26th, 2021, 11:08 am Another brigaded movie is this Brazilian one, which is an official check: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7825208/
Good find, Gorro!
It's different in that there is no warning on the ratings section of the film, something I have until now only encountered with Jasenovac and the Bollywood-Fault-one.
You instantly recognize that Marighella isn't exactly a trash film, though, lol. With 3.1 at over 30k votes, it should be deep in the Bottom 100, but isn't, that's where you know that something is off.

Fergenaprido wrote: February 26th, 2021, 3:44 am I think we discussed this a few months ago. It was released shortly after the male lead committed suicide, which his fans largely attribute to nepotism in Bollywood. That's an oversimplification, I know, but this film was upvoted a lot while some other contemporary films starring/produced by those perceived to have benefitted from the nepotism at the expense of others were downvoted (I think).
Ah, I only remember the other half of the story, namely a film of the "bad side" being bombarded with 1-star-votes. Well ..

xianjiro wrote: February 26th, 2021, 5:58 am ie: real fans over-voting - I have to wonder why IMDb cares to "adjust" this [...] IMDb cares more about correcting the upside.
Probably true. The Top 250 is sacred, you know.
In the years around 2010, so many films disappeared from the list within a day or a few, mostly Bollywood. Folks got lazy in Jeff's headquarter. :rolleyes:
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Seven years is a hell of long quest, just sayin'. World War II didn't even last that long.
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Afghanistan might be more to your liking then. ;)
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WalterNeff wrote: February 27th, 2021, 2:38 am Seven years is a hell of long quest, just sayin'. World War II didn't even last that long.
IMDb is more like our 'nam.
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How long's there been both Drishyam and its remake both on the IMDB top 250 right next to each other?! Kind of bizarre coincidence.
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I just noticed that too, and I usually look at the list about once a month or so, maybe once every 2 months. So I don't think that long, plus the 2013 only has 32k votes so it hasn't been eligible for all that long I think.

Really makes me excited to try to complete the list!
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I suppose the release of the sequel has to do something about it
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It happened last week, and yes, the sequel is likely the reason it popped back in. In general, when a sequel or a remake is released, the original film often gets a bump in the Top 250 (or reenters for a while). It happened with Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin, for example.
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Torgo wrote: February 27th, 2021, 3:35 am
WalterNeff wrote: February 27th, 2021, 2:38 am Seven years is a hell of long quest, just sayin'. World War II didn't even last that long.
IMDb is more like our 'nam.
the is iCM our America and porn/bo lists/Bollywood/some other things our Civil War/wedge issues?
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