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Completely different kind of work and person probably, but this conversation is reminding me of Wesley Willis, probably the first outsider musical artist I ever encountered. Hmm, have to see if I still have a CD or three of his.
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That is glorious, and I love it. Outsider art can be awesome. The Watts Towers is the coolest thing in LA.

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I also love this place in upstate New York, which I've driven by many times. Last time I did I stopped and spoke to the proprietor, Bijan, who immigrated to the US from pre-revolutionary Iran. He's been hanging out in the Berkshire hills and making his sculptures for decades.

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The Moog was pretty damn new and cool.
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: January 28th, 2021, 9:08 pm What happens when a father forces his daughters to form a band

I kind of unironically love that album.

it is completely terrible by every metric imaginable. And yet, against all odds, it has these strange moments that kind of work.
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I’m to remember every man I've seen fall into a plate of spaghetti???

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No hidden gem but...

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^Almost posted that, but I decided to continue limiting myself to sung songs. Maybe my favorite Davis album though.
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Ooh fun topic. Really anything Gibbs has made over the past 3 years or so but I'll go with...

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I always liked this Tom Petty music video:



For that matter, this other Petty video is pretty good too:

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#JeSuisCharlie Liberté, Liberté chérie !

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Wish I could post something a bit more recent, but I haven't been following music vids for the past 10 yeas or so.

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There's a music video I have to mention. When it was first released, I spent a solid week watching it over and over again. I would hesitate to call it good. I don't think the good/bad paradigm applies here (if it ever does to visual art). I do think it's one of the more batshit insane things I've ever seen, both as a song and a video. And trying to explain why would take far too long. Best to just watch it:



A friend of mine once told me that I had to at least respect that Kanye was willing to display the full insanity of his artistic vision. And I suppose that's true. But I also think that the moral here is that no matter how much talent a person has, they should also have someone in their life who's willing to tell them they're making some very bad choices.

Also, check out the Rogen/Franco parody video if you're interested:

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Re: Kanye’s “Bound 2” video, I feel it necessary to also mention the South Park version, with Kanye pondering on whether or not Kim Kardashian is an actual hobbit:

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blocho wrote: February 3rd, 2021, 9:17 pm But I also think that the moral here is that no matter how much talent a person has, they should also have someone in their life who's willing to tell them they're making some very bad choices.
People with galaxy-sized egos aren't very good at listening to others' advice. See: most of Kanye's career, and the last 4 years of the US presidency.
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GruesomeTwosome wrote: February 3rd, 2021, 9:36 pm Re: Kanye’s “Bound 2” video, I feel it necessary to also mention the South Park version, with Kanye pondering on whether or not Kim Kardashian is an actual hobbit:
Amazing. Thank you for sharing that.
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From some concerts where I was in the audience:





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I heard this for the first time at the Bowery Poetry Club in New York in 2009. The conductor/composer said he was inspired during a trip to Boston on Fung Wah. The song, he explained, was about "achieving personal transcendence through reasonably priced intercity transportation."

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This COULD be from a show I saw - I saw three of the "Vote for Change" concerts in 2004 - in Philadelphia, Detroit and Cleveland. I think they did this song every night of the run in any case.

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Freni, not Pavarotti.
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I heard this at the Village Vanguard in 2000 or 2001. The recorded version is a quartet, but the night I heard it, Lovano was playing in a nonet, including two drummers. It was quite a show.

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Don't like this version actually, but it's the only one on youtube. Shit holds up.

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Stage version:



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I strongly dislike musical theater. I like music and I like theater. I don't like the two together, at least in the popular form it has taken in the United States over the last century. For the same reason, I dislike most movie musicals.

On the other hand, I love jazz, and so many jazz standards are just repurposed show tunes. Many of those standards are taken from musicals from the 1920s-1940s, shows that have long since been forgotten. A film professor once told me that musicals changed in the postwar era as the songs became more fully integrated into the narrative. He said Oklahoma provided the breakthrough in this regard. I gathered that the musicals from the prewar era were mostly song-and-dance shows or stories that had musical settings (sort of like how Gold Diggers of 1933 was set among musicians and show people). I'm not sure how true that is, but if it is, I think I would prefer the prewar style -- it feels more authentic if there's a reason why people are singing rather than just having some cowpokes randomly break into song. Clearly, musical audiences have different preferences.

Here's a great song from a 1933 musical that nobody remembers. It was most famously covered by Nat King Cole and the Platters. I prefer the Platters' version.

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Burlesque star Gypsy Rose Lee parodied and memorialised by Rodgers and Hart in their song ''Zip'' from 'Pal Joy'; I really like how Bebe Neuwirth handles the number here:

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How about a song (that I don't really like) from 2019 that is about 1999?

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This fits the two most recent categories. It was released in 1999, and it was originally a show tune.

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