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Yeah, I got it and feel HORRIBLE.
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Yes, I had it but have recovered.
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I think I had it, but not sure.
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No, I know I won't get it. Ever.
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Jesus Horatio Christ. I got scheduled! On the 23rd. There's a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Well i will have my vaccin in two weeks.

And I also convinced a die-hard anti-vaxxer to vaccinate himself... lol. I didn't know i could be so convincing.
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Got the second jab yesterday and feel like crap. Temp over 100, and feel like I have the flu. Plus my left supraclavicular lymph node is the size of a golf ball. No regets though. The virus would prob be 10 x worse.
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ouch enlarged lymph nodes suck!
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@peeptoad: hope you get back to feeling normal as quick as possible!
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Thanks xianjiro. Feeling better today, but still pretty wiped out.
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Lakigigar wrote: March 25th, 2021, 11:41 am Well i will have my vaccin in two weeks.

And I also convinced a die-hard anti-vaxxer to vaccinate himself... lol. I didn't know i could be so convincing.
Congrats, I think you're making the right choice.

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Got my second shot last Thursday. Nothing terrible. My arm hurt for a day or so. I got tired the first evening (about 6 hours after the shot) but not in the same way as the prior time. The first time it was more of a physical tiredness, this time it was more mental. The next day I was a bit achy throughout the day, but not actually in pain. My arms and legs felt like they weighed about 1000 pounds. I just took it easy though and was fine the next day.

My wife got it a bit worse, though again nothing too serious. She got her second shot Friday. She was fine that night, but Saturday she was exhausted and had chills throughout the day. Felt super warm, but no fever. That went away by yesterday, though her arm is still sore even today, though she says its definitely getting better each day.
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I was scheduled to have my first shot on Thur, but I got a text earlier saying my appointment has been canceled due to overbooking.
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Daviddoes wrote: March 30th, 2021, 7:24 am I was scheduled to have my first shot on Thur, but I got a text earlier saying my appointment has been canceled due to overbooking.
BOOO!!! :circle:
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https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belg ... ronavirus/

FREEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM!

THIS IS HISTORIC. ALL COVID MEASURES WILL BE LIFTED IN 30 DAYS DUE TO HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATIONS ACCORDING TO LAWSUIT.
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Lakigigar wrote: March 31st, 2021, 3:36 pm https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belg ... ronavirus/

FREEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM!

THIS IS HISTORIC. ALL COVID MEASURES WILL BE LIFTED IN 30 DAYS DUE TO HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATIONS ACCORDING TO LAWSUIT.
Good for you. So glad you all have the freedom to say Fuck You to science and medicine, spread disease, and kill strangers. You're a shining beacon to the world; hopefully we can convince most American evangelical Christians/Trump voters (really the same group) to move to Brussels shortly and you can all be free of this horrible tyranny that is mask-wearing and washing hands together.
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OldAle1 wrote: March 31st, 2021, 3:58 pm
Lakigigar wrote: March 31st, 2021, 3:36 pm https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belg ... ronavirus/

FREEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM!

THIS IS HISTORIC. ALL COVID MEASURES WILL BE LIFTED IN 30 DAYS DUE TO HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATIONS ACCORDING TO LAWSUIT.
Good for you. So glad you all have the freedom to say Fuck You to science and medicine, spread disease, and kill strangers. You're a shining beacon to the world; hopefully we can convince most American evangelical Christians/Trump voters (really the same group) to move to Brussels shortly and you can all be free of this horrible tyranny that is mask-wearing and washing hands together.
Well, they're celebrating this, which doesn't surprise me, because they didn't wanna get vaccinated since people get sick for a bit from the vaccine, and said they flirted with the idea to join the far right because the far left isn't left enough.
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OldAle1 wrote: March 31st, 2021, 3:58 pm
Lakigigar wrote: March 31st, 2021, 3:36 pm https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belg ... ronavirus/

FREEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM!

THIS IS HISTORIC. ALL COVID MEASURES WILL BE LIFTED IN 30 DAYS DUE TO HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATIONS ACCORDING TO LAWSUIT.
Good for you. So glad you all have the freedom to say Fuck You to science and medicine, spread disease, and kill strangers. You're a shining beacon to the world; hopefully we can convince most American evangelical Christians/Trump voters (really the same group) to move to Brussels shortly and you can all be free of this horrible tyranny that is mask-wearing and washing hands together.
:)
I think you can keep your elite, Belgian Parliament is debating a proper covid-restrictions law atm and government can appeal the ruling anyway.
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Lakigigar wrote: March 31st, 2021, 3:36 pm https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belg ... ronavirus/

FREEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM!

THIS IS HISTORIC. ALL COVID MEASURES WILL BE LIFTED IN 30 DAYS DUE TO HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATIONS ACCORDING TO LAWSUIT.
No they won't.

They're just required to have a proper law to justify them. And if that's not there, they'll have to pay 5000EUR/day. Which is absolute peanuts.

(it did make me wonder who they'll pay it to).
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Onderhond wrote: March 31st, 2021, 4:41 pm
Lakigigar wrote: March 31st, 2021, 3:36 pm https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belg ... ronavirus/

FREEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM!

THIS IS HISTORIC. ALL COVID MEASURES WILL BE LIFTED IN 30 DAYS DUE TO HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATIONS ACCORDING TO LAWSUIT.
No they won't.

They're just required to have a proper law to justify them. And if that's not there, they'll have to pay 5000EUR/day. Which is absolute peanuts.

(it did make me wonder who they'll pay it to).
A few weeks ago something similar happened here with the curfew. Some anti-covidrestrictions-group won a lawsuit about it. Judge said indeed there was no legal justification for such a drastic measurement (didn't bother to read the details...). Needless to say we still have the curfew at the moment.
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joachimt wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:05 pm A few weeks ago something similar happened here with the curfew. Some anti-covidrestrictions-group won a lawsuit about it. Judge said indeed there was no legal justification for such a drastic measurement (didn't bother to read the details...). Needless to say we still have the curfew at the moment.
Yeah, it's just the wording of the "article" that's confusing. But the Brussels Times is known for that. If Trump would own a newspaper ...
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OldAle1 wrote: March 31st, 2021, 3:58 pm
Lakigigar wrote: March 31st, 2021, 3:36 pm https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belg ... ronavirus/

FREEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM!

THIS IS HISTORIC. ALL COVID MEASURES WILL BE LIFTED IN 30 DAYS DUE TO HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATIONS ACCORDING TO LAWSUIT.
Good for you. So glad you all have the freedom to say Fuck You to science and medicine, spread disease, and kill strangers. You're a shining beacon to the world; hopefully we can convince most American evangelical Christians/Trump voters (really the same group) to move to Brussels shortly and you can all be free of this horrible tyranny that is mask-wearing and washing hands together.
You get it so wrong.

Did this court rule order forbid washing hands and wearing masks.

The only tyranny is requiring people to wear one.

Even if it was just an advice, i would still follow that advice to wear mouth masks. I have no issue with it. I have an issue with the punitive intent. I have no issue with covid measures. I have an issue with HOW THEY ARE IMPLEMENTED.

I have an issue with the authoritarian form of covid measures and the restrictions being shoved behind us. I'm not making myself popular, i know. But I have the right to my own opinion. And don't compare me with the far-right because everyone who is SANE knows i'm not. Actually, if a Nazi-Germany existed in 2021 they would have done the exact same thing as most western countries now do.

You know why North Korea almost have no cases. I'm going to tell you. They don't have to take measures, because all their measures were practically used in standard before COVID-19 broke out. It's why dictatorships can brag about their results, because they are by definition authoritarian which seems to work to indeed get the numbers down. I'm in favour of freedom and human rights. The current Belgian covid-measures do violate human rights. Simple and clear.

Covid-19 is a victory for authoritarianism. COVID-19 justifies all authoritarian measures and no-one stands up against it, and i can't believe it.
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Tbf you did say you flirted with the idea of joining the far right in another thread.

The other problem with this is that you've praised Vietnam for how well they've handled the virus. What did they do? Strict measures!
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: March 31st, 2021, 4:09 pm
OldAle1 wrote: March 31st, 2021, 3:58 pm
Lakigigar wrote: March 31st, 2021, 3:36 pm https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belg ... ronavirus/

FREEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM!

THIS IS HISTORIC. ALL COVID MEASURES WILL BE LIFTED IN 30 DAYS DUE TO HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATIONS ACCORDING TO LAWSUIT.
Good for you. So glad you all have the freedom to say Fuck You to science and medicine, spread disease, and kill strangers. You're a shining beacon to the world; hopefully we can convince most American evangelical Christians/Trump voters (really the same group) to move to Brussels shortly and you can all be free of this horrible tyranny that is mask-wearing and washing hands together.
Well, they're celebrating this, which doesn't surprise me, because they didn't wanna get vaccinated since people get sick for a bit from the vaccine, and said they flirted with the idea to join the far right because the far left isn't left enough.

DUDE i literally convinced an anti-vaxxer else to take the vaccine... (read a former post of me). But yes keep shitting on me, because you can't stand opinions that are different than your own... sure (just like OldAle1).
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It must be me, but I swear every time I read "So-and-so announced social distancing measures will be relaxed in PLACE" on X day, it's followed by about X+14 days with "A new wave of Covid cases are being reported in PLACE".

We were getting daily reports in the 100 - 200 range for the entire state so boom, relax restrictions and set deadline for kids to go back to school, etc. Now cases are varying with 200 on the weekend (usually reported on Monday), quickly followed by the upper 400 - 500s. I won't be surprised if we're back in 1000s by mid-April.

At least the stores weren't very crowded last night - only went to two and they are those huge warehouse type buildings so I wasn't too nervous. My locally library is open for most services, but was empty last week. Will be interesting to see what it's like today.

I am now eligible to get the vaccine. Problem is: there are none available at my pharmacy and the only pharmacy I can get to either isn't offering appointments or is booked solid. I honestly can say I don't expect I'll be able to get vaccinated anytime in the near future.

But woohoo, everyone dying for "freedom" with at least 30 variants in the wild - some spread more easily and some are killing more often. Time to share the pain and suffering yet again! It's Easter - don't worry, if you die from Covid you'll be resurrected in a glorious post-Covid world. (My apologies to the true believers of which I am clearly not one. I don't mean to cause offense.)

I am WAY more exhausted by restrict-relax-repeat than I am of simple measure like keeping your distance and wearing a mask.
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:42 pm Tbf you did say you flirted with the idea of joining the far right in another thread.

The other problem with this is that you've praised Vietnam for how well they've handled the virus. What did they do? Strict measures!
Again you misinterpreted it. I have never flirted with the far-right. I tried to appeal to far-right voters to win them to vote for the far-left and it does work, because I convinced many VB voters to vote far-left in 2019.
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I'm not opposed to lockdowns, but the only thing they lockdown are leisure places, but people still need to continue to work their asses off, and that's my issue. Or we do a full lockdown or we don't. Simple. Now we are literally slaves that have no right for leisure, no right to party (for years), no right to drink a beer in a bar... It's not our right. If you do it, you get a ridicilous fine. In your US or Canadian state, i'm sure you can still drink a beer in a bar. You know nothing about Belgium.

Even major politicians - esp. the kind of politicians this forum loves like neolibs - have been caught violating the lockdown theirselves, some on lockdown parties, but no action is taken on them. When 5 students in Kortrijk get caught eating a sandwich together with a mouthmask, they get a 250 euro fine. If people on a "kot" - some kind of place to live for students - who live there go outside on their terrace they get a fine of 250 euro's, while they live there.

But than we see this... rich pricks going to the beach... and not respecting social distance, because it's sunny in Belgium.
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xianjiro wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:45 pm I am WAY more exhausted by restrict-relax-repeat than I am of simple measure like keeping your distance and wearing a mask.
It's happening here too. The weather got warmer, and numbers went down, so things are opening again. What do you know, the 3rd wave is here now and records are breaking again.
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:42 pm Tbf you did say you flirted with the idea of joining the far right in another thread.

The other problem with this is that you've praised Vietnam for how well they've handled the virus. What did they do? Strict measures!
Let's not forget the ANZAC plan: handful of cases? Full lockdown for days or even a month then back to normal.

I've never wanted to live in New Zealand as much as the past year. The ICMForum should sponsor a relocation programme then at least we'd have one person in NZ on the board. (Sorry, if I've never twigged you're a kiwi whoever you are. :ph43r: )
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Wow. The Russians have even developed a vaccine for animals?!?

Russia registers world's first Covid-19 vaccine for animals
Moscow's agricultural regulator said the vaccine would be able to protect vulnerable species and thwart viral mutations.

I hope this isn't a "Voltswagen" type major punking.
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:48 pm
xianjiro wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:45 pm I am WAY more exhausted by restrict-relax-repeat than I am of simple measure like keeping your distance and wearing a mask.
It's happening here too. The weather got warmer, and numbers went down, so things are opening again. What do you know, the 3rd wave is here now and records are breaking again.
I avoided the word "record" in my mini-rant because I didn't want to seem too reactionary, but yes, I'm reading that exact thing in location after location.

Something about human nature is just so ...
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Moral of the story: don't judge me because i make an unpopular opinion or should we ban "unpopular opinions". I'm not supportive of Trump. I think he's an idiot esp. for how he handled COVID-19, how he said it was the chinavirus, suggested taking bleach, said it was a little flu, and it did cost rightfully the election, so DON'T EVER SAY i'm supportive of Trump or the far-right now and interpret things how you want it to be.

At the end i'm an ally of you, in all domains. Perhaps a weird ally, and who will criticize his allies too, but i'm on the good side, working with you guys, working for a better world, engaging myself.
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That being said, has anyone heard reports of Cuba having 2 vaccines in the final phase of testing? Apparently if their promises are correct they'll be the first country to have herd immunity. I would find this inspiring because with the sanctions against them they would still accomplish this. Plus, it's not unrealistic to say they could do this. They have a lung cancer vaccine which an american association is saying they are doing tests with and see that it works so far, and they sent doctors to Europe during the beginning of covid.
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:54 pm That being said, has anyone heard reports of Cuba having 2 vaccines in the final phase of testing? Apparently if their promises are correct they'll be the first country to have herd immunity. I would find this inspiring because with the sanctions against them they would still accomplish this. Plus, it's not unrealistic to say they could do this. They have a lung cancer vaccine which an american association is saying they are doing tests with and see that it works so far, and they sent doctors to Europe during the beginning of covid.
Cuba is one of the greatest countries to exist on this planet, and it only has a bad image because the Americans have a weird fetish with them.
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I got COVID shot #1 (Pfizer) an hour ago. :)
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Ebbywebby wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:59 pm I got COVID shot #1 (Pfizer) an hour ago. :)
Congrats! Are you receiving commands from Bill Gates yet?
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kongs_speech wrote: March 31st, 2021, 7:02 pm
Ebbywebby wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:59 pm I got COVID shot #1 (Pfizer) an hour ago. :)
Congrats! Are you receiving commands from Bill Gates yet?
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Lakigigar wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:37 pm I have an issue with the authoritarian form of covid measures and the restrictions being shoved behind us.
We are treated the way we deserve to be treated: like little children.

The Belgian government recently announced stricter measures again because the numbers are rising. The people's response? Let's book some extra vacations and let's all take the train the enjoy the summery weather at the Belgian coast.

What you do or don't do doesn't really matter in the bigger picture. Unless 11 millions others aren't roughly doing the same thing, you need to start coming with fines and other forms of punishment to make people listen. And even then many of them don't (because we're all so good at coming up with excuses why we, in our current situation, don't have to follow that one piece of advise).

There's no point being angry at the government in this case. They're not doing a perfect job, but under the circumstances there's little you can blame them for. If you want to be mad, be mad at all those people who can't follow advice unless there's a fine or punishment that urges them to make sane decisions. They're the ones ruining it for the rest of us.
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If the government has no trust in us, and think they can do it better, shouldn't we just give up on democracy, like say it's a failed experiment?

Like why should we even continue to be democrats if they can't even pretend to be ones anymore, because they'll know it inevitably better.

Just stop pretending we have a say or vote in this.
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I am an all out commie so there is a bias, but if you look at strict measures, they've worked. China was super strict on it, and they might have arguably been hit the hardest, and now it's like nothing happened there.
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Onderhond wrote: March 31st, 2021, 7:13 pm
Lakigigar wrote: March 31st, 2021, 6:37 pm I have an issue with the authoritarian form of covid measures and the restrictions being shoved behind us.
We are treated the way we deserve to be treated: like little children.

The Belgian government recently announced stricter measures again because the numbers are rising. The people's response? Let's book some extra vacations and let's all take the train the enjoy the summery weather at the Belgian coast.

What you do or don't do doesn't really matter in the bigger picture. Unless 11 millions others aren't roughly doing the same thing, you need to start coming with fines and other forms of punishment to make people listen. And even then many of them don't (because we're all so good at coming up with excuses why we, in our current situation, don't have to follow that one piece of advise).

There's no point being angry at the government in this case. They're not doing a perfect job, but under the circumstances there's little you can blame them for. If you want to be mad, be mad at all those people who can't follow advice unless there's a fine or punishment that urges them to make sane decisions. They're the ones ruining it for the rest of us.
And yes i'm pretty upset about those people, but do you think it's correct (i'll post in dutch)

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2021/02/15/studenten-kot/

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2021/03/25 ... -dat-we-c/

https://www.hln.be/kortrijk/vijf-studen ... ~adc8f366/

Do you think this is normal. Do you really think this is normal. 250 euro's is a ton of money! a ton!
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: March 31st, 2021, 7:15 pm I am an all out commie so there is a bias, but if you look at strict measures, they've worked. China was super strict on it, and they might have arguably been hit the hardest, and now it's like nothing happened there.
If China started treating it better from the beginning, perhaps there wouldn't have been covid-19... they put whistleblowers in jail, you know that? The ones who first alarmed about a possible outbreak were put in jail.
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Lakigigar wrote: March 31st, 2021, 7:14 pm If the government has no trust in us, and think they can do it better, shouldn't we just give up on democracy, like say it's a failed experiment?
We literally pick a government because we expect them to govern us, knowing fully well we couldn't (as a group) ourselves. The whole point of democracy is picking people who can make smarter, better informed decisions than we could. Otherwise we wouldn't even need a government.

So no, it's not a failed experiment, it's a sign that the experiment is actually working. It transcends the needs of the few and governs in function of the whole. This from someone who has been "working his ass off" during this entire year (I've been just been doing regular hours and I'm pretty glad I was in the position to do so).
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Yea building a 4000 bed hospital in 10 days and putting wuhan in strict quarantine wasn't that good of a response. Also if you've read about the whistleblower going to jail (which I disagree with), but it was for videos showing an empty city, and because they "didn't give people enough information, then simply locked down the city"
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