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So yeah, we were discussing adding an official LGBTQ list and was wondering, who on the forum considered themselves LGBTQ? Interested to know the demographics :D
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Gay here :banana: :banana: :banana:
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Can't find a suitable image but yeah, gay.
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Gay. Not gonna lie I find that unicorn pic to be annoying :(
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As once was said, I'm queer as a three speed pawpaw.
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Nuclearplanet on Jun 20 2015, 05:51:35 AM wrote:So yeah, we were discussing adding an official LGBTQ list and was wondering, who on the forum considered themselves LGBTQ? Interested to know the demographics :D
and what about you, Nuke-u-lure? (that's how Homer says it...) :cowboy:
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Bobby Peru on Jun 20 2015, 09:07:13 AM wrote:Can't find a suitable image but yeah, gay.
:lol: oh, your avatar is quite suitable!
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xianjiro on Jun 20 2015, 10:20:21 AM wrote:
Nuclearplanet on Jun 20 2015, 05:51:35 AM wrote:So yeah, we were discussing adding an official LGBTQ list and was wondering, who on the forum considered themselves LGBTQ? Interested to know the demographics :D
and what about you, Nuke-u-lure? (that's how Homer says it...) :cowboy:
oh, sorry...i was distracted by that unicorn pic :run:
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So, Brazil vs Mexico....anyone else voting for Cameroon?
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xianjiro on Jun 20 2015, 10:36:48 AM wrote:So, Brazil vs Mexico....anyone else voting for Cameroon?
I've no idea what you're alluding to here.


Regarding LGBTQ, from a very young age I've always felt out of sync with gender roles. Boys are this way, girls are that way never seemed to apply to me. I'm a woman who likes men, so I'm not LGB. The first time I heard about trans I recognized a lot of my own problems, but after hanging out on a trans forum I realized that I'm not trans either (I have no desire to physically become a man). So that leaves queer, in that I reject traditional gender roles and think people should be looked at individually, not as a group. But to be honest, to say that I identify as queer would be overstating it, since it only rarely comes up in my life.
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Yea gender roles need to be ditched fast. They even make an issue for the most trivial things possible like me wearing women's deodorant (any sane person will realize that it smells soooo much better. And even after 8 months only half of the package is used)

I've once said a while back, I still believe in masculinity and femininity, I just don't think that they should be restricted to a gender.
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I'm similar to jvv. I consider myself gender neutral. Though I've been attracted to guys since I was 4, so I've always known I was straight but never felt like I was a girl. But I don't want to change gender either, because then I wouldn't feel like me so I don't identify with trans either. It's made things very difficult for me my entire life and I've only really met a couple of people who have been understanding and accepting.
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I always say I'm trying to get in touch with my masculine side ...

So, what are your 10 Favorite Queer Films? (an no, you don't have to say the 10 best....this one's personal, mate)
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I accept you all for just whoever you want to be are... no sweat.
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1. In the Family (2011) - Patrick Wang
2. L'inconnu du lac [Stranger by the Lake] (2013) - Alain Guiraudie
3. Desperate Living (1977) - John Waters
4. La mala educación [Bad Education] (2004) - Pedro Almodóvar
5. Un chant d'amour [A Song of Love] (1950) - Jean Genet
6. Blue (1993) - Derek Jarman
7. Faustrecht der Freiheit [Fox and His Friends] (1975) - Me Rainer Werner Fassbinder
8. In einem Jahr mit 13 Monden [In a Year With 13 Moons] (1978) - Me Rainer Werner Fassbinder
9. Sebastiane - Derek Jarman
10. 春光乍洩 [Happy Together] (1997) - Wong Kar-Wai

According to RYM Borderline and Flesh are queer cinema but I don't really remember anything queer about them. I know that Borderline had a lesbian couple but that was a very small part of the film.

10 best... Un chant d'amour [A Song of Love], Sebastiane and Pink Narcissus for sure.
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1. My Own Private Idaho (1991)
2. Tomboy (2011)
3. Victor Victoria (1982)
4. Transamerica (2005)
5. Boven is het stil (2013)
6. Weekend (2011)
7. Boys Don't Cry (1999)
8. Voor een verloren soldaat (1992)
9. I Am a Woman Now (2011)
10. Happy Together (1997)
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Going just by their 'gayness' (eg excluding Crying Game, Wizard of Oz etc):

1. Maurice
2. For a Lost Soldier
3. Bent
4. Weekend
5. A Single Man
6. Stranger By the Lake
7. Get Real
8. Just a Question of Love
9. Latter Days (guilty pleasure)
10. Fucking Amal
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I feel so pedestrian

1. Priscilla
2. Cabaret
3. Angels in America
4. Rent
5. Longtime Companion
6. Jeffrey
7. The Crying Game
8. La Ley del Deseo
9. Laurence Anyways
10. The Hanging Garden

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okay, I'm just saying, if we can agree on a official top list candidate, when we don't even have a single overlapping favourite film, it will be a minor miracle!
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had to think about it, but would put Voor een verloren soldaat on my honorable mentions too
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Well The Crying Game would be #1 but I don't really think of it as a gay film :P Same with Cabaret which I also love but doesn't have any gay significance to me. I also reluctantly excluded Kiss of the Spider Woman for similar reasons.
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mightysparks on Jun 20 2015, 12:09:48 PM wrote:Well The Crying Game would be #1 but I don't really think of it as a gay film :P Same with Cabaret which I also love but doesn't have any gay significance to me. I also reluctantly excluded Kiss of the Spider Woman for similar reasons.
Crying Game is so totally trans....Cabaret - the English protagonist and the Aryan German in the menage a trois....and well Kiss is so totally gay!

BTW, I forgot my honorary gayest film ever! 300
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Oh, and one of the reasons I really love Crying Game, though it's depressing as hell in so many ways, is that Dil just is - not male, not female, just Dil. I love it! (Plus, Jaye Davidson played the arch villain in Stargate (the movie).
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xianjiro on Jun 20 2015, 12:21:11 PM wrote:
mightysparks on Jun 20 2015, 12:09:48 PM wrote:Well The Crying Game would be #1 but I don't really think of it as a gay film :P Same with Cabaret which I also love but doesn't have any gay significance to me. I also reluctantly excluded Kiss of the Spider Woman for similar reasons.
Crying Game is so totally trans....Cabaret - the English protagonist and the Aryan German in the menage a trois....and well Kiss is so totally gay!

BTW, I forgot my honorary gayest film ever! 300
I know they're all gay, but they're not... Gay. Those films all mean something different to me so including them would feel wrong. Like including Psycho in a horror list (although I do so reluctantly) when to me it's 100% thriller.
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I consider myself to be pansexual. Sometimes I am attracted to women, sometimes I am attracted to men, sometimes I am attracted to both, and sometimes I'm attracted to neither. My attractiveness to a person really depends on the individual (their sexy personality + not being hideous) and their gender has no influence on it.

I grew up straight. I was attractive to girls at a very young age and had a girlfriend when was 3-4 years old. The relationship lasted for a few years. I later had another girlfriend when I was about 13 (which only lasted for a month) and another at 17 (which only lasted for one week because the person who asked me out was a few years younger than me and wanted the relationship to move very fast like hormone crazed teenagers...and we shared the same exgirlfriend who was sending me weird text messages and also asked me out again to break this up... very weird :lol: ). When I was about 14-15, I discovered that I liked guys as well, but I still was attracted to women, so I identified with being bi. When I went to university, I felt more questionable for a bunch of different reasons. Then when I was 19, I was on the internet and came across the word "pansexual" and I thought that was the best word choice to describe myself out of all the options available, so I kept using that word :sweat:

I don't have a list of favorite queer films. There are films I like with gay and lesbian characters, but I never make a mental note to remember a film distinctly to fit into that category. There are comedies, dramas, horror, and probably action thrillers films that I like which features gay and lesbian or transgender characters but my mind doesn't really separate these films into their own queer category because I don't care about the sexuality of a character unless it plays a huge role in the plot or provides character development.
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I'm not LGBTQ, but here's my top 10 (roughly in order):

The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant (1972)
The Wedding Banquet (1993)
Funeral Parade of Roses (1969)
Blue Is the Warmest Color (2013)
The Door Into Summer (1981)
Tropical Malady (2004)
Blue Gate Crossing (2002)
Happy Together (1997)
Pride (2014)
The Place Without Limits (1978)

I wasn't sure if I should include Brand Upon the Brain!, so I left it out, but it would've been near the top of my list if I included it. I also wasn't sure if I should include Persona.
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Cocoa on Jun 20 2015, 01:33:14 PM wrote:had a girlfriend when was 3-4 years old. The relationship lasted for a few years.
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A film I can add to discussion is Vive L'amour.
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mjf314 on Jun 20 2015, 01:35:08 PM wrote:I'm not LGBTQ, but here's my top 10 (roughly in order):

The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant (1972)
The Wedding Banquet (1993)
Funeral Parade of Roses (1969)
Blue Is the Warmest Color (2013)
The Door Into Summer (1981)
Tropical Malady (2004)
Blue Gate Crossing (2002)
Happy Together (1997)
Pride (2014)
The Place Without Limits (1978)

I wasn't sure if I should include Brand Upon the Brain!, so I left it out, but it would've been near the top of my list if I included it. I also wasn't sure if I should include Persona.
Funeral Parade of Roses wasn't tagged as queer cinema on RYM so I missed it. Here's my updated list:

1. In the Family (2011) - Patrick Wang
2. L'inconnu du lac [Stranger by the Lake] (2013) - Alain Guiraudie
3. Desperate Living (1977) - John Waters
4. 薔薇の葬列 [Funeral Parade of Roses] (1969) - Toshio Matsumoto
5. La mala educación [Bad Education] (2004) - Pedro Almodóvar
6. Un chant d'amour [A Song of Love] (1950) - Jean Genet
7. Blue (1993) - Derek Jarman
8. Faustrecht der Freiheit [Fox and His Friends] (1975) - Me Rainer Werner Fassbinder
9. In einem Jahr mit 13 Monden [In a Year With 13 Moons] (1978) - Me Rainer Werner Fassbinder
10. Sebastiane - Derek Jarman
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Regarding Cocoa's description of pansexual; I kind of think most people's sexuality falls into this category with different degrees. For example, I have only ever been attracted to men. But obviously not all men. So I also think it's entirely possible, however unlikely, that I could also be attracted to a woman. It's never happened, but if I were to be then I would run with it and all would be cool. I'm attracted to people mostly by personality first (those attractions last longer and are generally stronger as well), but I need to find them physically attractive as well. So far I've never been attracted to a woman's personality or physical appearance, but as I said, how could I say it definitely wouldn't happen? Just random musings from me..
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Well of course everyone will have their exceptions for crushes, but I dunno... No way will I ever get near the lady bits, even if it's Joan. It's funny, even when I was 14 and thought I was straight, I would always do my best to avoid seeing one. And it ever happens I almost make a :yucky: kind of face.

There's always those different types of attractions. I can be attracted to tons of women, but not in "that" way.
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I'm not really that interested in looking at male parts though. I don't really understand how anyone can be attracted to genitals, I find them all gross. I'm still obsessed with men though so :shrug:
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mightysparks on Jun 20 2015, 02:37:22 PM wrote:I don't really understand how anyone can be attracted to genitals
And I don't really understand how you can't :P (well I do, but this is one of those OH YEA?! teases)

Dicks are the shit.
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Todo sobre mi madre (1999) pretty much the whole Almodóvar oeuvre actually
Anders als die Andern (1919)
Ba'al Ba'al Lev (1997) pretty much the whole Eytan Fox oeuvre actually
Cruising (1980)
Victim (1961)
Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001)
Scorpio Rising (1964)
Weekend (2011)
Juste une question d'amour (2000)
Transamerica (2005)

I'm bad at making lists though/cbf tbh :ph43r:
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ArthurYanthar on Jun 20 2015, 02:40:47 PM wrote:
mightysparks on Jun 20 2015, 02:37:22 PM wrote:I don't really understand how anyone can be attracted to genitals
And I don't really understand how you can't :P (well I do, but this is one of those OH YEA?! teases)

Dicks are the shit.
Well I'm not interested in random people's parts, just the parts of people I like :P even then that's not really what I'm interested in. I get more excited playing Portal 2 than I ever have looking at genitals. But then who wouldn't
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mightysparks on Jun 20 2015, 02:58:23 PM wrote:
ArthurYanthar on Jun 20 2015, 02:40:47 PM wrote:
mightysparks on Jun 20 2015, 02:37:22 PM wrote:I don't really understand how anyone can be attracted to genitals
And I don't really understand how you can't :P (well I do, but this is one of those OH YEA?! teases)

Dicks are the shit.
Well I'm not interested in random people's parts, just the parts of people I like :P even then that's not really what I'm interested in. I get more excited playing Portal 2 than I ever have looking at genitals. But then who wouldn't
Tbf if we had Portal technology there would be a lot of people using it for Grindr hook-ups.
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Mulholland on Jun 20 2015, 04:25:05 PM wrote:
mightysparks on Jun 20 2015, 02:58:23 PM wrote:
ArthurYanthar on Jun 20 2015, 02:40:47 PM wrote:And I don't really understand how you can't :P (well I do, but this is one of those OH YEA?! teases)

Dicks are the shit.
Well I'm not interested in random people's parts, just the parts of people I like :P even then that's not really what I'm interested in. I get more excited playing Portal 2 than I ever have looking at genitals. But then who wouldn't
Tbf if we had Portal technology there would be a lot of people using it for Grindr hook-ups.
Don't wanna be all nerdy but in the case of the Portal game you need the same gun for both portals, so hookups might not be that easy. I can see people going NUTS with autofellatio with portals though.

But ughhh grindr. There was one night a bit back where I just thought "fuck it. I'll have a random hookup tonight. Even if I never had one before I really want one now". I ended up having 2 offers in like 15 minutes. But there's just something that's so, methodical about it all. There was no emotional at all, and no effort to get to know each other. It felt like I was signing a bunch of paperwork (This will sound silly but I'd even call that process bureaucratic ... That moment when you call grindr bureaucratic :lol: )

It's just like "Hey. Top or bottom? Cool, here's my dick. Got pics? Hot, here's my address" (I stopped at the pics part). I think I'm open enough now to not have a relationship, but goddamn at least go on one date with me first so that we get to know each other. For starters, at least tell me your name before asking to fuck. Also hate that top and bottom stuff. Like John Waters once said "what is this a political party? It depends."
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ArthurYanthar on Jun 20 2015, 05:23:51 PM wrote:Also hate that top and bottom stuff. Like John Waters says "what is this a political party? It depends."
I hate it when people ask that.

Once, after introducing my boyfriend to the guys I shared a house with at uni. After he left I got the 'soooooo.... whose the driver and whose the parker' question.

I just went as graphic as I could and watched one of them go white. That was fun.
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It's funny cause those 2 guys knew I was virgin and still asked that. I just had to say "Gotta try both before deciding" >.>
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ArthurYanthar on Jun 20 2015, 05:34:18 PM wrote:It's funny cause those 2 guys knew I was virgin and still asked that. I just had to say "Gotta try both before deciding" >.>
I can see that being a pretty good pick-up line for Grindr.
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so regarding my top ten

10. Jai Tu Ma Mere
9. Edge Of Seventeen
8. Angels In America.
7. Cabaret
6. Paris Is Burning
5. Beautiful Thing
4. But I'm A Cheerleader
3. Laurence Anyways
2. Weekend
1. Pride (Welsh & Gay Pride :3)
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