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Cippenham wrote: July 25th, 2019, 4:22 am Another paper shows no human influence on the climate . It’s beginning to look embarrassing for the climate religion fanatics.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1907.00165
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A study with no citations, and not yet published in any respectable scientific journal, or any journal anyway.
English is not my first language but I would say that abstract is badly written too.
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That is shooting the messenger, the fact is we are getting a mini ice age , and that paper is correct.
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Cippenham wrote: July 25th, 2019, 7:32 pm That is shooting the messenger, the fact is we are getting a mini ice age , and that paper is correct.
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You’ll latch onto anything that will confirm your preconceived narrative, no matter how flimsy and evidence-lacking the source. “And that paper is correct”....HAHAHA, your certainty is hilarious.
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Yeah, love that new fangled 'mini ice age' in Europe - and let's just ignore the slew of "hottest month ever" reports. After all, Cipp has confused GoT with climate science. So, I wonder if he's been running up and down the streets handing out winter coats "prepare now - the mini ice age is at hand!"
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Again shoot the messenger? The facts speak for themselves. The whole conspiracy was dreamt up a few years ago so now the poor youth of the world have been so brainwashed into this nonsense they believe the world is in effect coming to the end so it’s ok to commit crimes to stop it. Meanwhile China and India ignore it in favour of boosting their economic activities.

Extreme weather is not proof of global warming. Don’t fall for that nonsense. The weather and climate are different things as clearly explained here

http://www.ipsnews.net/2018/11/extreme- ... l-cooling/

Richard Lindzen also makes the same points

https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads ... ecture.pdf
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Cippenham wrote: July 26th, 2019, 3:41 am Richard Lindzen
has discredited himself by being wrong. a lot.
https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Ri ... indzen.htm

Quit it, you can't prove something by quoting the dissenting voices. The industry has to pay somebody to spread misinformation.
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Cippenham wrote: July 26th, 2019, 3:41 am Meanwhile China ignore it in favour of boosting their economic activities.
China is actually not ignoring it. In China environmental measures in many fields are ahead of many European nations and certainly the US. They do stimulate the economy that way, that is true, they will certainly have the solar panel and electric car market cornered soon (as far as that is not already the case).
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Norway is always promoting warmth as a good thing. (All major newspapers are tabloid)

Today they fight over who gets the highest temperature
https://www.nrk.no/norge/i-dag-kan-varm ... 1.14638787

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but of course you have no nighttime cooling to speak of, as we do here in the tropics (Philadelphia being the furthest south I've ever lived, and only place with no snow some winters)
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It's not even news anymore, and it's actually wintertime down there...
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Just another winter's day in Perth.

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looks like where I live during the summer... I'm on the wrong continent. :facepalm:
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https://strangesounds.org/2019/08/erupt ... video.html

Take a look at these photos of the Shiveluch volcano

It states this could have a direct cooling effect on the planet, an Act of God?
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peeptoad wrote: August 27th, 2019, 1:24 pm looks like where I live during the summer... I'm on the wrong continent. :facepalm:
I’ll trade :whistling: it’s been the least wintery winter ever. 5 years ago at this time I was wearing 3 layers of jumpers, pants and socks and had to stay wrapped up in blankets in bed all day. I’ve been going for daily walks for 3 weeks in this kind of weather. A couple of rainy days, and a few cold mornings but mostly clear blue skies (especially by midday) and around 20 C.
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Today it’s a max of 27 :( It’s 23 now and it’s the first time I haven’t needed a jacket of some kind. It’s actually quite hot and I’m probably not gonna walk for as long today. No surprise the kiddie beach is packed. Pokémon Go is gonna suck in summer. Guess it’ll be really early mornings or evenings. I have a slight sunburn from the 20 degree weather so I’m worried about how I’m gonna go today.
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Cippenham wrote: August 27th, 2019, 6:36 pm https://strangesounds.org/2019/08/erupt ... video.html

Take a look at these photos of the Shiveluch volcano

It states this could have a direct cooling effect on the planet, an Act of God?
https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/shivel ... 70000.html

Sadly it was not as big as first thought and therefore cannot have a cooling effect on the planet
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Meanwhile in Japan they are opening another 35 clean coal power stations to add to the existing 100 because there have been no significant temperature changes for 30 years whilst we in Britain expect the lights to go out.

https://climatism.blog/2019/02/22/japan ... erational/
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mightysparks wrote: August 27th, 2019, 10:28 pm
peeptoad wrote: August 27th, 2019, 1:24 pm looks like where I live during the summer... I'm on the wrong continent. :facepalm:
I’ll trade :whistling: it’s been the least wintery winter ever. 5 years ago at this time I was wearing 3 layers of jumpers, pants and socks and had to stay wrapped up in blankets in bed all day. I’ve been going for daily walks for 3 weeks in this kind of weather. A couple of rainy days, and a few cold mornings but mostly clear blue skies (especially by midday) and around 20 C.
You might be trading for about the same thing... except I think it's far more humid on average in New England. We haven't had a really proper snow fall since the winter of 2015 when we were all 6 feet under. Last 2-3 years have been warmer and with less snow (barring the stupid polar vortex earlier this year, but that was only for 3 days).
Now the Amazon is ablaze and I fear that will have a compounding effect on climate change in the next decade. :down:
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17 000 lightning strikes in 6 hours last night. The area is about 200km x 200km
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After an extremely warm (probably record) September, we've been having an average October, until just today when the temperature has plunged from a high in the 70s (20s) to probably just above freezing for the next several days. We could theoretically get snow tomorrow night, a rarity at this time in southern Wisconsin. And I'm having to be out and about doing medical & financial things when it's perfect to be in and reading or watching movies, sigh...
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OldAle1 wrote: October 11th, 2019, 1:37 pm After an extremely warm (probably record) September, we've been having an average October, until just today when the temperature has plunged from a high in the 70s (20s) to probably just above freezing for the next several days. We could theoretically get snow tomorrow night, a rarity at this time in southern Wisconsin. And I'm having to be out and about doing medical & financial things when it's perfect to be in and reading or watching movies, sigh...
Yes. We had a normal September I think.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/earth-ho ... 475f98d309

I went to NOAA and checked out the hottest-month stats since they have evidently become popular. These are for land+ocean, but there are separate ones there:
J: 2016 (+1.13C), 2017, 2019, 2007
F: 2016 (+1.26C!), 2017, 2015, 1998, 2019
Winter (Northern HS): 2016
M: 2016 (+1.31C!), 2019, 2017
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May: 2016, 2015, 2017, 2019
Spring (Northern HS): 2016, 2019
J: 2019, 2016, 2015
July: 2019, 2016, 2017
August: 2016, 2015=17=19
Summer (Northern HS): 2016, 2019
S: 2019, 2015, 2016
O: 2015 (+1.04C), 2018, 2017
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London 1952, Russia, Brazil, 'nesia, now Ukraine
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... -a-century

btw it's foggy outside again (after relief of a few weeks)
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https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/weathe ... 881407461z

I'm glad I don't have to leave the house and have an amazing air-con.
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mightysparks wrote: December 10th, 2019, 11:58 am https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/weathe ... 881407461z

I'm glad I don't have to leave the house and have an amazing air-con.
Ugh. I do not envy you, mighty...is it really dry there too? :yucky:
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peeptoad wrote: December 10th, 2019, 1:00 pm
mightysparks wrote: December 10th, 2019, 11:58 am https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/weathe ... 881407461z

I'm glad I don't have to leave the house and have an amazing air-con.
Ugh. I do not envy you, mighty...is it really dry there too? :yucky:
Yeah, but I'll take that over humidity any day. I haven't been outside in a few days, but I can feel it in the mornings before putting on the aircon.

I also have developed an issue with bright lights so even on a regular day going outside means I can't keep my eyes open without sunnies, and I can't even look outside right now.
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mightysparks wrote: December 12th, 2019, 12:03 am
peeptoad wrote: December 10th, 2019, 1:00 pm
mightysparks wrote: December 10th, 2019, 11:58 am https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/weathe ... 881407461z

I'm glad I don't have to leave the house and have an amazing air-con.
Ugh. I do not envy you, mighty...is it really dry there too? :yucky:
Yeah, but I'll take that over humidity any day. I haven't been outside in a few days, but I can feel it in the mornings before putting on the aircon.

I also have developed an issue with bright lights so even on a regular day going outside means I can't keep my eyes open without sunnies, and I can't even look outside right now.
Yeah. I'm the opposite... can't stand aridity and I live for humidity (to an extent). I get respiratory problems when it gets too dry (like it's bordering on here right now since I have to keep the heat cranked). Take care of your eyes... B) and keep wearing sunblock! (I burn really easily too, so I can sympathize. Good thing I hate the beach anyway, lol.)
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What's up Australia?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/ ... ire-risks/
It's still 4C off temperature record of 50C
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What's everyone's city's pollution score?
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Armoreska wrote: January 18th, 2020, 2:33 pm What's everyone's city's pollution score?
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should declare state of independence instead
he or A. or Armo or any

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currently working towards a vegan/free world + thru such film lists: GODARD,
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ANARCHISTS, 2010s bests, Visual Effects nominees, kid-related stuff, great animes (mini-serie or feature), very 80s movies, mah huge sci-fi list, ENVIRO, remarkable Silent Films and Pre-Code (exploring 1925 atm) and every shorts and docu list I'm aware of and
/forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo
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Armoreska
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#519

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he or A. or Armo or any

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currently working towards a vegan/free world + thru such film lists: GODARD,
Spoiler
ANARCHISTS, 2010s bests, Visual Effects nominees, kid-related stuff, great animes (mini-serie or feature), very 80s movies, mah huge sci-fi list, ENVIRO, remarkable Silent Films and Pre-Code (exploring 1925 atm) and every shorts and docu list I'm aware of and
/forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo
imaginary awards | youtube channels | complaint lounge | explain how big a fan of slavery you are here, ..viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1535 and here: ..viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4484
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Monday evening was much worse than that here - could barely seen 10 blocks away. Yesterday the winds were from the west, so the air was better, but the fires to the south of me (20 minutes maybe) gave the southern sky a very eerie quality - like really dirty thunder clouds (but they were mostly smoke related). Today has been less good - you can tell the air isn't clean, but it doesn't feel as scary as Monday night did. I've been smelling smoke since the weekend though.

Entire towns have burned - part of the 'problem' right now is that everyone was already called away fighting the big California fires, so it's basically left to 'local' fire departments to deal with these fires they call "they biggest they've ever had to contend with".

The winds have just been insane and the device that approximates relative humidity (not a hygrometer) inside my apartment is about half of normal - probably the lowest I've seen it sustained in almost 15 years living here.

The dual whammy of CoV-19 and soon to be the worst fire season in at least 100 years is really going to make this a very difficult year for many.

Rain is at best a week away.
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