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So, we've talked about the films we need to see, haven't seen yet, really should see, just haven't gotten around to yet, etc. But what films have you made the decision you just will never watch, no matter what list they are on or what platinum you will forgo? (I know NOT watching films is seriously difficult for Moravian tarts.)

Two that I've actively decided to avoid at all cost:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/dilemme+au+feminin/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/ele ... +elephant/

No check's that import to me.

BTW, do we have a thread about the films we wished we had put on this list? I'd have to do some digging to come up with them, but they're mostly on the shorts lists. I kinda also could have done without Penishands and the other porno on the comedy list.
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None for me.

I've seen the elephant one btw (rated it 1/10), it's not pretty, then again stuff like that never is. But it happens(/happened), so I don't see any reason not to watch it.
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I won't refuse any fictional work.

However, I refuse to watch the videos of actual drama that circulate endlessly on social networks... Beheadings, car accidents or anything else of the sort. I won't give a view to such pictures, and I would certainly feel uncomfortable watching them. I don't see any healthy or intelligent reason for such watches, except for professional reasons...
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I'll probably never watch Bertolucci's Last Tango in Paris because of what happened to Maria Schneider
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Wiseman's Primate. I am really glad that he made this film, but there's no way I would be able to see it.
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A lot of idiotic comedies that aren't official checks. Nothing for moral reasons, I don't think. I'd prefer to avoid stuff with unstimulated rodent cruelty, but I'm not going to avoid official checks.
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The Vienna Aktionists stuff. I watched a Kurt Kren film that is apparently aligned with this movement that was just disgusting and pointless; apparently most of Kren's work is not in that category but looking into it (as everybody interested in the Vogel list has to do someday), no, I can safely say I see no need to watch an Otto MΓΌhl film, ever. And there's other stuff broadly in that category, mostly 60s-70s things that involve defecation or vomiting or whatever that I just don't need to see. After watching the three Ilsa movies last year I can also say there's probably a fair number of horror/exploitation films of that particular sort that I will never see also. Disgusting/offensive PLUS boring pretty much goes past my limit.

I will never see The Rocky Horror Picture Show unless I can see it in the cinema, at midnight, with an audience. I missed many chances while living in Chicago so it's on me, but it just doesn't look interesting enough to me (I have little interest in camp) to watch on my own when I know it's entire reputation was built on midnight movie showings. Some films really cannot be taken outside of their original contexts IMO and that seems to be one of them.

I will almost certainly never watch a large percentage of the big American CGI animations of the past 15-20 years - stuff like Ice Age. No interest in where the most mainstream of US animation is going today, and my nieces are getting to be old enough to likely not care about this by the time I see them next, and I have nobody else that I'd watch them with. Life's too short to waste on these things.

Not sure I'll ever watch another feature-length Andy Warhol film. Maybe if I got a chance to see certain ones in the cinema but that's about it. Not talking about the stuff actually directed by Paul Morrissey, some of those look at least vaguely interesting.
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I'll watch anything if necessary (e.g. LIST COMPLETION!).
Just going to postpone the least appealing things as long as possible, often for several years, maybe effectively ad infinitum - but I'll watch them.
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I honestly can't think of any. There are plenty I wouldn't care/enjoy to watch like Rom Coms (i.e. stuff I'd suffer through if someone else put it on) and the like, but flat out refusal I can't think of one offhand. I did get Turin Horse from the library about 2 year ago, read the description on the back and returned it without watching it, but I think I'd try it again at some point. Just wasn't prepared for it then...
Oh, one I just thought of but it's not actually a "film": Three Guys One Hammer.
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cinephage wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 10:16 am I won't refuse any fictional work.

However, I refuse to watch the videos of actual drama that circulate endlessly on social networks... Beheadings, car accidents or anything else of the sort. I won't give a view to such pictures, and I would certainly feel uncomfortable watching them. I don't see any healthy or intelligent reason for such watches, except for professional reasons...
Yes, this ^ agreed.
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I tend to avoid misogynic machismo, violence for its own sake, action flicks, gratuitous sex, drugs, gangsters....
Sounds like it doesn't leave me much to watch, what? And that is not all, oh no, that is not all....
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I'd say none.

There are films that I have little interest in seeing and there are some films that will likely never be a high priority for me, but I can't imagine saying 'never' to any film on a matter of principle.

And this has nothing to do with list completionism since I don't have a single Platinum award. :shrug:
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sol wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 2:40 pm And this has nothing to do with list completionism since I don't have a single Platinum award. :shrug:
You could at least finish the Jerry Beck list. It is fun and full of great animated short films... Great rewards for so little time...
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cinephage wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 3:01 pm
sol wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 2:40 pm And this has nothing to do with list completionism since I don't have a single Platinum award. :shrug:
You could at least finish the Jerry Beck list. It is fun and full of great animated short films... Great rewards for so little time...
If you look at sol's IMDb profile and look at the number of shorts he's rated I think you'll find your answer as to why he doesn't finish that list...
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OldAle1 wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 3:04 pm
cinephage wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 3:01 pm
sol wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 2:40 pm And this has nothing to do with list completionism since I don't have a single Platinum award. :shrug:
You could at least finish the Jerry Beck list. It is fun and full of great animated short films... Great rewards for so little time...
If you look at sol's IMDb profile and look at the number of shorts he's rated I think you'll find your answer as to why he doesn't finish that list...
:rolleyes: I've seen far more shorts than what I have rated on IMDb.

The biggest issue for me way back in the day (pre-iCM) is that I could never work out how to rate shorts on the same scale that I used for feature films, so I generally rated very few, maybe just the exceptions to the rule. It has been a blessing joining iCM though since I can just check rather than numerically rate every short that I see, and over the past four years I have checked several hundred shorts -- I just haven't been bothered trying to numerically score them through IMDb.
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OldAle1 wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 3:04 pm
cinephage wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 3:01 pm
sol wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 2:40 pm And this has nothing to do with list completionism since I don't have a single Platinum award. :shrug:
You could at least finish the Jerry Beck list. It is fun and full of great animated short films... Great rewards for so little time...
If you look at sol's IMDb profile and look at the number of shorts he's rated I think you'll find your answer as to why he doesn't finish that list...
Oh, and if you look at my iCM profile and look at what I have typed, I think you'll find your answer as to why I haven't finished the Jerry Beck list. tehe
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sol wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 3:08 pm
OldAle1 wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 3:04 pm
cinephage wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 3:01 pm

You could at least finish the Jerry Beck list. It is fun and full of great animated short films... Great rewards for so little time...
If you look at sol's IMDb profile and look at the number of shorts he's rated I think you'll find your answer as to why he doesn't finish that list...
:rolleyes: I've seen far more shorts than what I have rated on IMDb.

The biggest issue for me way back in the day (pre-iCM) is that I could never work out how to rate shorts on the same scale that I used for feature films, so I generally rated very few, maybe just the exceptions to the rule. It has been a blessing joining iCM though since I can just check rather than numerically rate every short that I see, and over the past four years I have checked several hundred shorts -- I just haven't been bothered trying to numerically score them through IMDb.
Ah OK I see. I knew you weren't the biggest short-watcher here but I did find that number surprisingly low. I'm glad I don't have that difficulty because it would drive me nuts to have my icm and IMDb totals so far off. Actually they are perfectly in-synch at the moment but I know there are a few errors, I guess with both sites.

But you do bring up a good point re: difficulty in rating. For me it's the good/bad films that give me troubles and it's where the value of ratings breaks down. Plan 9 From Outer Space is both a 1 and a 10 and there's no way to resolve that. Thankfully THAT aspect of rating doesn't really drive me nuts, it's just quirky and something I have to live with. First-world problem and all that.
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Just the ones I believe I will most likely hate and waste my time when I could have watched something else. Example: The Human Centipede series. I've seen the first one out of curiosity when it came out but I'm not watching the other two, regardless of being official checks.

I've been trying to avoid rape revenge flicks such as The Last House on the Left/ I Spit on your grave, porn flicks such as Deep Throat or Caligula or stuff such as Cannibal Holocaust/Ferox. Yeah, I won't get a platinum in the most controversial list.

Also popular stuff such as 50 shades of Grey.
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dirty_score wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 3:26 pm Just the ones I believe I will most likely hate and waste my time when I could have watched something else. Example: The Human Centipede series. I've seen the first one out of curiosity when it came out but I'm not watching the other two, regardless of being official checks.

I've been trying to avoid rape revenge flicks such as The Last House on the Left/ I Spit on your grave, porn flicks such as Deep Throat or Caligula or stuff such as Cannibal Holocaust/Ferox. Yeah, I won't get a platinum in the most controversial list.

Also popular stuff such as 50 shades of Grey.
I had exactly the same reaction to Human Centipede. The first was WWWAAAAAAAYYYY more than enough. :lol:

I think I've seen everything else you mention other than Deep Throat - that's not something I'm going to request through ILL!
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Empire (1964). Actually, I avoid pretty much everything that's experimental and long.

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for me:

American History X
Jagten
Intouchables
Green Book
most films by Clint Eastwood
and probably some more like these

I am not sure I could fully defend why I expect to find these especially distasteful and who knows, in a decade's time I might get curious. But as it stands I expect them to fall into a category of movies that really rubbed me the wrong way like La vita Γ¨ bella, The Green Mile and 2004's Crash...
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I made several attempts to watch Jagten and couldn't bear it. Thank goodness I no longer have to make my watch things because I should or to get a check.
beavis wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 10:00 pm for me:

American History X
Jagten
Intouchables
Green Book
most films by Clint Eastwood
and probably some more like these
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beavis wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 10:00 pm for me:

American History X
Jagten
Intouchables
Green Book
most films by Clint Eastwood
and probably some more like these

I am not sure I could fully defend why I expect to find these especially distasteful and who knows, in a decade's time I might get curious. But as it stands I expect them to fall into a category of movies that really rubbed me the wrong way like La vita Γ¨ bella, The Green Mile and 2004's Crash...
I see where you're coming from and while I don't share the pronounced disdain for that very Academy-drooling type of conscience cinema, I'd like to insist that Jagten is a way rougher and more painful film than the others on the list. (Who'd wonder, since most of the others are absolutely US/Hollywod.) I will talk no one into watching Green Book or 00's-Eastwood, but if you didn't hate Festen by Vinterberg, I don't see why you should lump Jagten in with the rest there :)
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Torgo wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 11:09 pm I'd like to insist that Jagten is a way rougher and more painful film than the others on the list. (Who'd wonder, since most of the others are absolutely US/Hollywod.)
I'd argue that Jagten is the worst of the lot, I don't remember having been so angry while watching a film before, and that's not even because of what happens in the film, but because how far it was willing to go to prove its point. I actually find both Jagten and is latest film Druk to be even more "Hollywood" than most Hollywood films.
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Out of content, most shock films, specially the ones that deal with vomiting or eating shit or any nasty stuff like that, or those Italian cannibal films. I make exceptions for gore but it will usually be something that puts me off at first. I'm also not into watching horror that is heavy in jumpscares... I don't want to suffer, in short.

Out of personal conviction, Roman Polanski's J'accuse. It will take me a while to even be able to approach this film as a legit creation of its own right and not as the pathetic attempt of the director to victimize himself through the parallels he draws with Dreyfus.
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beavis wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 10:00 pm for me:

American History X
Jagten
Intouchables
Green Book
most films by Clint Eastwood
and probably some more like these

I am not sure I could fully defend why I expect to find these especially distasteful and who knows, in a decade's time I might get curious. But as it stands I expect them to fall into a category of movies that really rubbed me the wrong way like La vita Γ¨ bella, The Green Mile and 2004's Crash...
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OldAle1 wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 1:37 pm I will never see The Rocky Horror Picture Show unless I can see it in the cinema, at midnight, with an audience. I missed many chances while living in Chicago so it's on me, but it just doesn't look interesting enough to me (I have little interest in camp) to watch on my own when I know it's entire reputation was built on midnight movie showings. Some films really cannot be taken outside of their original contexts IMO and that seems to be one of them.
I saw RHPS with a bunch of friends one night. I thought it was fun, but nothing great.

I then saw it a few years later in cinema at a Hallowe'en showing with some folks, where everyone dressed up and did all the interactive bits (which I didn't know but it was still fun to see/hear), and it definitely made the whole experience was much better. I still only gave it a 7.2, but maybe I'm still being to harsh on it.

Anyway, I definitely recommend a midnight theatre showing, and I believe there are more of those around Hallowe'en time, so maybe look out for one this October in your area. If you have people to go with I think it will be more fun too.

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As for the question, nothing specific comes to mind, though now that someone mentioned Human Centipede, that is something I don't see myself ever watching. I don't do well with graphic gory horror, so I avoid most slasher films. They make me physically sick so much that I start to dry heave. I just can't handle the violence. A lot of films simply don't interest me, but I don't know if I would go so far as to say I would refuse to watch them. I think the only time I've turned down the opportunity to see film are when it was too scary or I hadn't seen the preceding films in the series.

I did have an acquaintance once who refused to watch Closer because she dislikes adultery. That led to an interesting discussion.
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Fergenaprido wrote: ↑March 31st, 2021, 4:40 am
I did have an acquaintance once who refused to watch Closer because she dislikes adultery. That led to an interesting discussion.
you know you are pretty much begging someone - not me - to ask you tell us all about the interesting discussion. :lol:
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I don't know if I'd use the phrase "film I refuse to watch." More a case of, "films I am highly unlikely to ever see." There will always be a never-ending list of good-sounding movies I at least want to watch, so why would I ever choose to watch A Serbian Film instead? Heck, why would I choose to watch A Serbian Film as opposed to any number of alternatives...taking a walk, exercising, browsing the library, playing with my cat, quizzing myself on geography...I dunno, brushing my teeth? Watching paint dry? Why, out of all the things I could do, would I choose to watch A Serbian Film?

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outdoorcats wrote: ↑March 31st, 2021, 5:35 pm I don't know if I'd use the phrase "film I refuse to watch." More a case of, "films I am highly unlikely to ever see." There will always be a never-ending list of good-sounding movies I at least want to watch, so why would I ever choose to watch A Serbian Film instead? Heck, why would I choose to watch A Serbian Film as opposed to any number of alternatives...taking a walk, exercising, browsing the library, playing with my cat, quizzing myself on geography...I dunno, brushing my teeth? Watching paint dry? Why, out of all the things I could do, would I choose to watch A Serbian Film?
This post reminds me that a few weeks ago while browsing new stuff at my local library I cam across this on BD. WTF. First I'm a little surprised that this has a US BD release at all (not a lot surprised, just a little - lots of weird/controversial stuff never makes it to official release after all), but second and more significant is my shock that the library would have this. It just doesn't seem like a "library film" to me, not at all.
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Mh I don't know. Out of curiosity, maybe? With all the talk about it.
Is it really the SiCkEsT most disturbing film of all time? How would you ever know?
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It's possible one isn't too interested in those things, maybe. Or, hehe, got sick of them. I'm not in my 20s anymore, so my thirst for highly controversial films has significantly cooled off - can't think of too many so much discussed violent films during the last decade - the 2010s - as it was the case with Saw, Martyrs, Irreversible, Inside, A Serbian Film or The Human Centipede in the heyday of torture porn. But maybe I just notice them anymore.
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Torgo wrote: ↑March 31st, 2021, 5:39 pm It's possible one isn't too interested in those things, maybe. Or, hehe, got sick of them. I'm not in my 20s anymore, so my thirst for highly controversial films has significantly cooled off - can't think of too many so much discussed violent films during the last decade - the 2010s - as it was the case with Saw, Martyrs, Irreversible, Inside, A Serbian Film or The Human Centipede in the heyday of torture porn. But maybe I just notice them anymore.
Nah, that type of film subsided, we now have "elevated horror".
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Yeah, or cerebral horror, horror films for the thinking man, you know.
I'm definitely not unhappy about that change in trend, to speak the truth. Some of my very genre favorites appeared in that branch.

re: A Serbian Film; I couldn't believe that in Germany, this was available on Amazon Prime - cut by 18 minutes :lol: That's the biggest nonsense one could go for. We have our history with films which are cut, maimed & mutilated beyond recognition. It's br00tal.
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OldAle1 wrote: ↑March 31st, 2021, 5:38 pm
outdoorcats wrote: ↑March 31st, 2021, 5:35 pm I don't know if I'd use the phrase "film I refuse to watch." More a case of, "films I am highly unlikely to ever see." There will always be a never-ending list of good-sounding movies I at least want to watch, so why would I ever choose to watch A Serbian Film instead? Heck, why would I choose to watch A Serbian Film as opposed to any number of alternatives...taking a walk, exercising, browsing the library, playing with my cat, quizzing myself on geography...I dunno, brushing my teeth? Watching paint dry? Why, out of all the things I could do, would I choose to watch A Serbian Film?
This post reminds me that a few weeks ago while browsing new stuff at my local library I cam across this on BD. WTF. First I'm a little surprised that this has a US BD release at all (not a lot surprised, just a little - lots of weird/controversial stuff never makes it to official release after all), but second and more significant is my shock that the library would have this. It just doesn't seem like a "library film" to me, not at all.
The uncut Blu-Ray finally just came out, 11 years after the initial premiere of the film. It's a new release, so that's probably why they have it. Personally, there's no fucking way I'm ever watching that again, because I'm no longer a high school edgelord.
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Torgo wrote: ↑March 31st, 2021, 5:39 pm Mh I don't know. Out of curiosity, maybe? With all the talk about it.
Is it really the SiCkEsT most disturbing film of all time? How would you ever know?
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It's possible one isn't too interested in those things, maybe. Or, hehe, got sick of them. I'm not in my 20s anymore, so my thirst for highly controversial films has significantly cooled off - can't think of too many so much discussed violent films during the last decade - the 2010s - as it was the case with Saw, Martyrs, Irreversible, Inside, A Serbian Film or The Human Centipede in the heyday of torture porn. But maybe I just notice them anymore.
I've actually watched all the Saw films (except for that new one), and Martyrs. I think with the Saw series it helps that although they are advertised as "torture porn," and certainly have grisly scenes, at their core they are just pulpy neo-noirish mysteries. Plus, they are not about sexual violence, which I have more trouble stomaching.

I'm all for a good horror film, including some boundary-pushing ones, but sexual violence against children/infants for shock value just seems a step too far. Quite a few steps, actually.

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I don't remember A Serbian Film to be all that graphic though. The plot and actions are pretty repulsive, but I think most of it is implied rather than shown in full glory? I wasn't really impressed when I watched it.
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Torgo wrote: ↑March 31st, 2021, 5:39 pm Mh I don't know. Out of curiosity, maybe? With all the talk about it.
Is it really the SiCkEsT most disturbing film of all time? How would you ever know?
:o

It's possible one isn't too interested in those things, maybe. Or, hehe, got sick of them. I'm not in my 20s anymore, so my thirst for highly controversial films has significantly cooled off - can't think of too many so much discussed violent films during the last decade - the 2010s - as it was the case with Saw, Martyrs, Irreversible, Inside, A Serbian Film or The Human Centipede in the heyday of torture porn. But maybe I just notice them anymore.
For me it also comes down to having worked in video stores for a decade, and seeing the people who typically rented the most horrible stuff out there - which included at that time things like Faces of Death, which we had for a while but eventually got rid of (we were an "artsy" company and tried not to have too much of the grossest stuff - but we were also competing with Blockbuster et al so we had to have some things they wouldn't carry, like certain edgy films/videos and porn). Of course there are lots of people on this forum and posting in this thread who claim they will watch anything, and probably will, and who I don't think are necessarily awful violent perverts - but I can't get out of my head the memories of the people who watched this stuff primarily/exclusively either. One guy in particular who my coworkers and I always used to joke probably had bodies in his basement, who only rented the roughest porn and roughest violent films and who was a genuinely creepy person avoided by everybody as far as I knew. For me it ultimately comes down to this: is there likely to be anything of real value here besides shock value? Because shock value, by itself, is of absolutely no interest to me at all. And that's certainly the impression I get re: A Serbian Film and a few other disgusting-looking flicks out there - Human Centipede is certainly in this category.

And the other thing that hasn't been mentioned much is watching with others; if I was regularly watching films with someone really into material that I'm not - whether it's stupid 2010s CGI kids films, dumbass Adam Sandler comedies or nasty exploitation stuff - I'd certainly be more likely to eventually see some of these things I haven no real interest in. But that's not the case right now and it's hard to foresee it being so in the future, so as long as I'm left to my own devices of course I will avoid a ton of stuff. We all do just as a matter of course, we just don't necessarily think of it as "deliberately refusing" to watch it, it's just that it's so low on the priority list that we'll never get to it.
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OldAle1 wrote: ↑March 31st, 2021, 6:16 pm
if I was regularly watching films with someone really into material that I'm not - whether it's stupid 2010s CGI kids films, dumbass Adam Sandler comedies or nasty exploitation stuff - I'd certainly be more likely to eventually see some of these things I haven no real interest in.
That's actually a really good point. If I had a partner with a kid, I'd have to watch a bunch of shitty-looking kids movies. But I don't, and they're not on any lists except the box office, so I don't. With exploitation, it depends. There definitely does need to be a point to it. I saw all the internet shock videos growing up, but I'm long since over that shit. And of course, I love Sandler. :wub:
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OldAle1 wrote: ↑March 31st, 2021, 5:38 pm
This post reminds me that a few weeks ago while browsing new stuff at my local library I cam across this on BD. WTF. First I'm a little surprised that this has a US BD release at all (not a lot surprised, just a little - lots of weird/controversial stuff never makes it to official release after all), but second and more significant is my shock that the library would have this. It just doesn't seem like a "library film" to me, not at all.
In my experience, if you put in a request for a library to order a certain film, if it's a large metropolitan library, they'll probably get it (in this case, likely not knowing what it's about).
Onderhond wrote: ↑March 31st, 2021, 6:10 pm I don't remember A Serbian Film to be all that graphic though. The plot and actions are pretty repulsive, but I think most of it is implied rather than shown in full glory? I wasn't really impressed when I watched it.
I'll take your word for it. :)

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