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Well, that would always be subjective. I would clearly prefer the versions of Blade Runner where Ford isn't an android, but do also prefer the version without narration. With Blade Runner Scott really have gone the George Lucas route of tweaking things that he personally didn't like even if everyone else hates his changes.

At least with Blade Runner we still have access to the original so we can pick whatever. Lucas on the other hand have removed them from history (Hopefully Disney will release them again now that they own them)

So put it blunt, there is never a definitive version, there are always a reason why they exist. Normally I would go with what is closest to the director's vision, but sometimes the director is an idiot :p
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The best version of the Worst Film Ever Made is of course the shortest, but better still is just imagining how bad it could be in your mind, for maybe a minute or so, and then deciding to accept that sometimes it's best not to confirm what you already know or what smart people with good taste urge on you...
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albajos wrote: August 17th, 2018, 12:23 pm Well, that would always be subjective. I would clearly prefer the versions of Blade Runner where Ford isn't an android, but do also prefer the version without narration. With Blade Runner Scott really have gone the George Lucas route of tweaking things that he personally didn't like even if everyone else hates his changes.

At least with Blade Runner we still have access to the original so we can pick whatever. Lucas on the other hand have removed them from history (Hopefully Disney will release them again now that they own them)

So put it blunt, there is never a definitive version, there are always a reason why they exist. Normally I would go with what is closest to the director's vision, but sometimes the director is an idiot :p
Pretty much this, and to add to the last line, "or dead, and we can't ask him/her what version is best anymore". Orson Welles, Erich von Stroheim, John Cassavetes, innumerable others who didn't necessarily get their visions on the screen the way they wanted to - and who (particularly in the first case) may have changed their minds several times over a lifetime as to what version suited their visions.
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OldAle1 wrote: August 17th, 2018, 1:30 pm The best version of the Worst Film Ever Made is of course the shortest, but better still is just imagining how bad it could be in your mind, for maybe a minute or so, and then deciding to accept that sometimes it's best not to confirm what you already know or what smart people with good taste urge on you...
I already noticed your rating on Criticker. :whistling:
Which was very surprising, because you normally are a frisky rater (I don't mean that in a negative or disrespectful way), so I was preparing for the worst. I haven't finished the movie yet, but so far I'm kinda enjoying it, although I think the IMDb-rating is waaaaaaay to high., so I'm somewhere in the middle. Ah well, maybe I'll change my mind one way or the other when I finish it.

If you call this the worst movie ever made, you clearly haven't seen enough Vogel-shorts. ;)
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That's at least the second time somebody's mentioned my rating on Criticker - a site that as far as I can recall I never registered at. I think somebody lifted my ratings several years ago and plopped them there, or else I did register at some point when I was drunk and forgot everything about it. Better to look at my IMDb ratings which are up to date.

I think rather than "frisky" a better word is "generous" - I try to look for the good in everything and tend rarely to deliberately watch films I think I might hate (apart from brand-new stuff where I take more risks), and so really low ratings are rare for me. But some things deserve it and this just ticked off everything I hate in big-budget comedies AND action films, and I can honestly say that I've never had a film experience I enjoyed less.

As to the Vogel stuff, well most of those aren't 2 1/2+ hours long, and I also tend to be somewhat generous with experimental stuff even when I don't really enjoy it, though I do have a few such films rated 1-3 so who knows? I'll probably make a project of getting to bronze on that list before long, but there are probably at least 74 films left too see that I would actually want to see anyway, so the real pain would only start in if I attempted to get closer to completion there. And I'll never watch some of that stuff, I'm just not a masochist like so many people are for the sake of a check.
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Well, the username is the same and the ratings seem to be correct. Everytime you respond to me on the weekly thread, it fits with your rating on Criticker compared to mine.
Looking up a rating on Criticker is easy, because you can go to a movie-page and immediately see the ratings of your kumpels (= friends). I add every forummember I come across there to my list of kumpels. Really helpful if I'm trying to decide whether to watch a movie or not.
Anyway, we've talked about your ratings before and indeed "generous" might be a better word. I actually want to be a bit more generous sometimes like you are. I always find it weird to see a lover of movies with mostly low ratings. I sometimes think "get another hobby". On the other hand, I don't think I should change the way I rate. It's been working fine and I already have a higher average than most people I think. My average for features is around 7/10. On moviemeter.nl I can quickly compare my average with others and I'm one of the highest there (at least among the big users).
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Oh I know those are my ratings, I just don't remember ever going there until somebody mentioned my ratings - I had a LOT of trolls attacking me pretty regularly on IMDb so I assume that maybe one of them took my ratings over there just to fuck with me in some way? Doesn't make sense but a lot of trolling doesn't make sense to me anyway. Or like I said, I could have registered when drunk (though I'm rarely drunk these days or in 2015 when that account was set up), but I can't find any record of passwords or anything for the site, and I use a different password everywhere and keep a file of them on a computer that isn't connected to the internet so as to minimize issues. Weird, anyway.

Actually my average isn't THAT much higher than yours, it's around 7.4, though part of the reason it isn't even higher is that I watch a lot of action films and am pretty hard on them generally, it's the only genre that I can say I love where the rewards aren't that great on a film-to-film basis, though I suspect as I keep watching more HK and east Asian action in general my ratings there will go up. But yeah, I'm with you in wondering why people continue to devote a lot of time to a hobby if the rewards aren't there - or at least I used to wonder it. I see it often enough among people that otherwise seem nice/sane/normal that I have to assume they just think very differently either about ratings or about the actual concept of "enjoyment" than I do. And it's one of the reasons why I rarely post my ratings anymore, they simply don't mean the same thing to any two people, whereas a paragraph about what I liked or disliked about something is a bit easier to comprehend I think.
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The Phantom of the Opera (1925), the 1925 edition (untinted, longer, rougher quality) or the 1929 edition (tinted, shorter, much better quality)?
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Crime Wave (1985)

I have two versions of similar length, and I'm not sure which one to watch.
1. Original Cut - 1:18:49
2. Director's Cut - 1:20:38

It seems that the director didn't like the original ending and reshot it. Has anyone seen both versions? Is the original worth watching at all?
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Dawn of the Dead (1978, Romero)

I have the following available to me:

1. Original cut
2. Extended Cannes edition
3. Dario Argento's European edition
4. Ultimate Final Cut

Any thoughts on which I should go for?
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I think I watched the Theatrical cut (Romero's preferred?), years ago, but if I was going to rewatch it I'd try out the Cannes cut. but I'm no expert.
4k release is coming tout de suite, supposedly of 3 cuts, not sure which tho.
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What about Maciste all'inferno (1925)?
Runtime on IMDb says 95 minutes. There is a version on Youtube with English intertitles that is 65 minutes long. There's also a version of 102 minutes on Youtube (with a soundtrack by Gojira) with Italian intertitles and French subs. So is 102 min the most complete version surviving? Then maybe I shouldn't watch the 65 min version, although this seems to be an "official" chopped release. The album by Gojira is actually less than an hour long.
This page tells a bit about both versions and it seems 103 min is the longest cut available, but I don't think any English subtitles exist.
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According to IMDb Dario Argento's Inferno is in Italian. I've got an English spoken version, but to me it seems the English matches the lips-movement of the actors. So which language is this movie?
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Silent and dubbed afterwards, I guess.

As most italian at the time.
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joachimt wrote: October 11th, 2019, 4:03 pm According to IMDb Dario Argento's Inferno is in Italian. I've got an English spoken version, but to me it seems the English matches the lips-movement of the actors. So which language is this movie?
I am pretty sure it was filmed in both English and Italian due to the leads being native English speakers and the supporting cast being mostly Italian. The original cinema release (in Italy) had the Italian track, but the direct to video release in NA only had an English track.
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What’s the deal with Soupçons/The Staircase? Is it an eight episode long miniseries or thirteen? The file I have contain only the first eight episodes.
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72aicm wrote: December 9th, 2019, 5:16 pm What’s the deal with Soupçons/The Staircase? Is it an eight episode long miniseries or thirteen? The file I have contain only the first eight episodes.
Yes. :P

The original was 8 episodes. There was a 2 episode follow-up in 2013, and 3 more episodes in 2018.

It's all on Netflix, if you can swing that.
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maxwelldeux wrote: December 10th, 2019, 4:12 am
72aicm wrote: December 9th, 2019, 5:16 pm What’s the deal with Soupçons/The Staircase? Is it an eight episode long miniseries or thirteen? The file I have contain only the first eight episodes.
Yes. :P

The original was 8 episodes. There was a 2 episode follow-up in 2013, and 3 more episodes in 2018.

It's all on Netflix, if you can swing that.
Yes, watch the full 13 episodes!
I just finished this one over the weekend. Great series!

Plus with the follow-ups later on it almost feels like a Linklater film.
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After one day, I’m seven episodes in already. I’ll watch the remaining six today. :)
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weirdboy wrote: December 10th, 2019, 5:38 am Plus with the follow-ups later on it almost feels like a Linklater film.
That awful? I'll stay away then
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Should I watch the theatrical cut or director's cut of Midsommar first?

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Mughal-E-Azam. I noticed it's in Mubi's library, but only a colourised version from 2004. Now, I'm naturally suspicious of colourising, but from checking the wiki this sounds like a pretty significant restoration effort as well as digital colorising, so I'm wondering if this is actually the way to go here - anyone have thoughts?

https://mubi.com/films/mughal-e-azam-color-version-2004
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brokenface wrote: June 9th, 2020, 7:46 pm Mughal-E-Azam. I noticed it's in Mubi's library, but only a colourised version from 2004. Now, I'm naturally suspicious of colourising, but from checking the wiki this sounds like a pretty significant restoration effort as well as digital colorising, so I'm wondering if this is actually the way to go here - anyone have thoughts?

https://mubi.com/films/mughal-e-azam-color-version-2004
I avoided the Mubi version when it came available for me last year because of that, and the fact that it seems to be missing 15 minutes (unless that's a frame rate difference), plus someone recently commented that aspect ratio is also wrong. (Color version also appears to have been recently uploaded to YouTube by Cinecurry Classics (without subtitles), so they may have their own restoration as well. I have the "the ORIGINAL version of the film (85% black and white and 15% Technicolor)" from Shemaroo Collector's Edition, though I still haven't watched it yet because it's so long. :sweat:
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This version of the film is terrible, besides each frame being painted over (giving it a fake color look, which is noticeable when you see the original color portions) the film is shorter only running 173min (the 2004 color dvd version runs 184min) instead of the original 197min runtime and worst of all the picture is presented in an aspect ratio of 1.78:1 (16:9) pan and scan style removing part of every frame.
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Container: AVI
Runtime: 3h 17mn
Size: 2.05 GiB
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Codec: XviD
Resolution: 640x480
Aspect ratio: 4:3
Frame rate: 23.976 fps
Bit rate: 1 290 Kbps
BPP: 0.175
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Runtime 3 hr 17 min (197 min) (1960)
3 hr 4 min (184 min) (2004 colorized)
Sound Mix Dolby Digital (2004 re-release) | Mono
Color Black and White | Color (Technicolor)
Laboratory Famous Cine Lab, Bombay, India (black and white scenes)
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Negative Format 35 mm
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Okay thanks, duly warned. I'll skip that one. 3 hr Bollywood ain't really my thing but if I'm going to watch one i might as well at least try to watch a decent version. Wrong aspect ratio is definitely a line in the sand.
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I just watched Paris qui dort (1924), using the 35-min version on the ubu page linked in the comments. I checked it, but then realized when I went to log it in my spreadsheet that the original film was about an hour long. I've found a place to get a copy of the 67-minute restored French version that was done a few years ago, so I unchecked the film.

But now I realize that it's also on the Brief Encounters list, which means that was probably referring to the shorter copy. I don't know about the other three official lists (BFI scifi, Rosenbaum, and Paul Rotha's silent), though Rosenbaum mentions both versions, so I'm not sure if I should check it again now, or wait until I've seen the longer version.

The short version was kind of exciting at the start, but then became very dull despite the plot moving forward swiftly. It felt kind of rushed, which makes sense in hindsight if it was edited down and a bunch of stuff cut out.

And for those who've seen both versions, is the longer one at least better/more coherent?
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well damn. I need to catch up to Soupçons then

Never watch Underground 3 hour version unless a completionist or a hurry-up-tionist.
the only way is the 6 hour miniseries, much better flow.
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Having spoken of Ridley Scott recently - Gladiator, theatrical (154 minutes) or extended (171)?
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It's unbearable enough at 154 minutes I think.
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:lol:
I have rated it a 6/10 back then, but mind you that was around my 16th birthday. I'm double the age, maybe it gets double the score now? Hm.
It's my lowest rating for any film in the IMDb Top 100 apart from 3 Idiots (...) and Braveheart and Amadeus. I need to properly reexamine that one day.
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Torgo wrote: March 6th, 2021, 7:54 pm :lol:
I have rated it a 6/10 back then, but mind you that was around my 16th birthday. I'm double the age, maybe it gets double the score now? Hm.
It's my lowest rating for any film in the IMDb Top 100 apart from 3 Idiots (...) and Braveheart and Amadeus. I need to properly reexamine that one day.
Sounds like you're an even more generous rater than I am - at least when it comes to popular "IMDb-worthy" stuff. I have a whole lot of films with the same rating (5) and quite a few with lower.

Looking into it a little, Wiki says that Scott considers the original theatrical release his preferred cut - so if I for some reason wanted to subject myself to it again, I'd probably go with that. I may have watched the longer version myself, no idea - I did watch it on DVD, not in the cinema, I think around 2008-9.
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Looking into it a little, Wiki says that Scott considers the original theatrical release his preferred cut
Thanks, that helps! There are also both cuts available in 4K UHD, neat. (Sometimes you don't have the choice for remastered, hi-def editions)

OldAle1 wrote: March 6th, 2021, 8:00 pm
Torgo wrote: March 6th, 2021, 7:54 pm :lol:
I have rated it a 6/10 back then, but mind you that was around my 16th birthday. I'm double the age, maybe it gets double the score now? Hm.
It's my lowest rating for any film in the IMDb Top 100 apart from 3 Idiots (...) and Braveheart and Amadeus. I need to properly reexamine that one day.
Sounds like you're an even more generous rater than I am - at least when it comes to popular "IMDb-worthy" stuff.
I don't know, I wouldn't call myself that. On the one hand, I might enjoy popular cinema more than the average cinephile, that's the one thing. More importantly, my rating scale might work exponentially; I'm ridiculously tough with 10s (10 out of over 5000) and very tough with 9s, but I'm also tough with ratings from 1 to 3 - for determinating the most terrible of cinema. I regarded these ratings as trophies. It's very hard to get away from a feeling for ratings you've developed over two decades. Now, mostly everything I watch ends up with 6, 7 or 8. It looks fair to me, considering what is possible at the very top and also what's possible at the very bottom.
4/10 is a truly bad blockbuster for me (or a kick in the balls for an arthouse film). Those go to stuff like Transformers sequels, 00s superhero movies or Adam Sandler comedies to me .. although these go even lower, hehe.
Discussing ratings might much be rather discussing taste than the scale - and vice versa.
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what's with Gladi-bashing? I would probably still give it a 9/10
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Mainstream pleb!

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I'm not a fan of Gladiator too, but I also think I should re-examine that one someday. It's the favourite movie of my best friend also.

Here is the entire IMDb top 100 that i've rated, but honestly i need to rewatch a ton of movies.

And honestly, none of those are in my top 10. There are however 2 movies in my worst top 10 movies i've ever seen (possibly even more. And on some movies i've been very forgiving (Capharnaum, Forrest Gump, Good Will Hunting, Inception, Requiem for a Dream). I also don't like Oldboy or Memento or Inglourious Basterds. I also don't like Godfather. I don't like The Lord of the Rings. I don't like Braveheart and fuck off Mel Gibson. But some seven's should have been eights though.
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The Shawshank Redemption - 8
The Godfather - 6
The Godfather: Part II - not seen
The Dark Knight - 6
12 Angry Men - 8
Schindler's List - 7
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - 7
Pulp Fiction - 9
Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo - 9
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - 5
Fight Club - 10
Forrest Gump - 5
Inception - 4
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - 5
Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back - 8
The Matrix - 8
Goodfellas - 8
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - 6
Shichinin no samurai - not seen
Se7en - 7 (ofc)
La vita è bella - 5
Cidade de Deus - 10
The Silence of the Lambs - 8
It's a Wonderful Life - not seen
Star Wars - 8
Saving Private Ryan - 7
The Green Mile - 3 (EW)
Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi - 7 (but will soon rewatch it in april for the animation challenge)
Interstellar - 8
Gisaengchung - 10
Léon - 8
Seppuku - not seen
The Usual Suspects - 2 (EW)
The Lion King - 8
The Pianist - 7
Back to the Future - 6
Terminator 2: Judgment Day - 8
American History X - 8
Modern Times - not seen
Gladiator - 5
Psycho - 9
The Departed - 7
City Lights - not seen
The Intouchables - 8
Whiplash - 9
Hotaru no haka - 7 (i need to rewatch this, but there is an animation challenge in april)
The Prestige - 8
Once Upon a Time in the West - 7 (will probably quite soon rewatch it)
Casablanca - not seen
Cinema Paradiso - not seen
Rear Window - 9
Alien - 9
Apocalypse Now - 8
Memento - 5
The Great Dictator - 7
Raiders of the Lost Ark - 6
Django Unchained - 7 (need to rewatch this)
The Lives of Others - 6
Hamilton - not seen
Paths of Glory - not seen
Joker - 9
WALL·E - 7 (need to rewatch this too)
The Shining - 9
Avengers: Infinity War - 8
Sunset Blvd. - not seen (shame on me)
Witness for the Prosecution - not seen
Oldeuboi - 4 (can't enjoy any Chan-Wook Park apparantly, always extremely complicated)
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - not seen
Mononoke-hime - 8
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb - 7
The Dark Knight Rises - 6
Once Upon a Time in America - not seen (but i will soon)
Kimi no na wa. - not seen (but i'm saving it for the animation challenge in april)
Aliens - 8
Coco - 8
Avengers: Endgame - 8
Capharnaüm - 4
American Beauty - 9
Braveheart - 4
Das Boot - not seen, once started it, couldn't finish it
Tengoku to jigoku - not seen
Toy Story - 7
3 Idiots - not seen
Amadeus - not seen
Inglourious Basterds - 5
Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi - 8
Good Will Hunting - 6
Taare Zameen Par - not seen, damn you indian maffia
Reservoir Dogs - 9
2001: A Space Odyssey - 8
Requiem for a Dream - 5 (meh)
Vertigo - 8 (but need to rewatch this)
Jagten - 9
M - Eine Stadt sucht einen Mörder - not seen
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - 6
Citizen Kane - not seen
Dangal - not seen
Singin' in the Rain - not seen
Ladri di biciclette - not seen
Full Metal Jacket - 6
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This would be my Worst 10 movies i've ever seen.

1. An Inconvenient Truth - 1
2. Titanic II - 2
3. Cars II
4. Little Black Spiders
5. The Usual Suspects
6. The Legend of Tarzan - 3
7. The Green Mile
8. Allez Eddy!
9. Paranormal Activity
10. Le meraviglie

Other 3/10 movies: Scary Movie, Knowing, The Weather Man, The Fifth Estate, Image, Experimenter, Incendies, Takers, Surf's Up and Volcano.
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not-having-seen-M squad
why the hate for Inconvenient Truth? because of Al Gore? I would expect ONE/10 out of the flat earth squad.
gave it an 8 in 2008

I enjoy Cars II (not as much as Cars 1), Usual Suspects, Green Mile, Paranormal Activity and any other movies I've seen that you listed are I think at least 6/10.
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more on topic here's the breakdown how much of Underground was cut in the popular release:
How much of each episode (/54m) is in the 3 hr version:
1: 32m
2: 32m
3: 20m
4: 7m
5: 40m
6: 39m
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Interesting breakdown for Underground. I just don't get how that, which is a completely other product, wouldn't be a separate IMDb entry; they just so rarely do these on the site. :shrug: (Only for monumental work like Donner's Superman II cut!)

OldAle1 wrote: March 6th, 2021, 8:00 pm at least when it comes to popular "IMDb-worthy" stuff. I have a whole lot of films with the same rating (5) and quite a few with lower.
You have me intrigued. May you please go completely and recklessly off-topic and include those in spoiler brackets? I only remember you're not what would be a called a vivid devotee of Ron Howard .. :whistling:
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OK...my lower-rated IMDb Top 100 films...
MOVIES FOR DUMB TEENAGED BOYS
13. Inception - 4 - this one I want to see again, and suspect may improve... a little. I don't love any Nolan films and the two I've re-watched didn't improve
16. The Matrix - 5
26. Saving Ryan's Privates - 5
27. The Green Mile - 5
31. Léon - 3
34. The Lion King - 3 - seen twice; used to be rated 1
40. Gladiator - 5
64. Avengers: Infinity War - 5
71. The Dark Knight Rises - 3
76. Avengers: Endgame - 5
83. 3 Idiots - 3
85. Inglourious Basterds - 4
88. Taare Zameen Par - 5
97. Dangal - 5

not seen: Intouchables, Hamilton
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Torgo wrote: March 7th, 2021, 2:57 pm Interesting breakdown for Underground. I just don't get how that, which is a completely other product, wouldn't be a separate IMDb entry; they just so rarely do these on the site.
It is but barely anyone has checked it in 10! years
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/bil ... na+zemlja/
the short version is so confusing in comparison. they should flip which one's on 0 lists

I wouldn't have even noticed this was the version to watch if friend didn't point it out. At least now it's top comment on ICM.
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/forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo
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Oh.
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